How many out there in England are celebrating this landmark? and why?
2007-03-24
19:32:15
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But the liberal media will make sure that they do.
2007-03-24
20:01:15 ·
update #1
I see that crimson is either a Europhile or from one of the countries benefiting from the overbearing burden imposed on the British people by the Brussels junta in the form of tax, none of which actually benefits the British either in having their opinion heard or being allowed to continue as we did. Our country is over run by overloaded continental trucks that break up our roads and by continental drivers who do not even have the curtesy to change their lights over so that they do not blind us. The mainlanders are just taking the piss.
2007-03-25
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I like your style voice of Reason, however it is still a case that foreigh lorry and car drivers still take the piss by not making their vehicles compatable with driving on our side of the road. Most continentals look to the, so called British Government, to fund all their projects.
2007-03-26
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I certainly won't be celebrating. I notice that some of the Europhiles are full of abusive rhetoric, but none of them have made a sensible case for Britain being in the EU, and that is because there isn't one. It is they who won't listen, and it is they who are obliged to make a case, because it is they who want to change a thousand years of history.
2007-03-26 10:16:17
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answer #1
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answered by Veritas 7
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No celebration in my house about the EU Brussels Dictatorship.
Be afraid, very afraid. The Huns want to create a European Army. The reason; they want to get their sticky hands on UK nukes - beware of Krauts.
Most EU countries simply cherry pick the rules they like and ignore those which they do not. We have a crazy situation here in UK where trucks on motorways have a speed restriction of [I think] 55mph - that's a UK rule. However, since this is applicable only to UK trucks this means that Huns and other foreign trucks simply charge down the motorways at any speed they choose. Gotta stop that.
Lets get this right - everyone south of Dover is foreign. The Euros are not related to us in terms of our history nor culture. UK [England] is the oldest country in Europe with the oldest parliament. Germany is hardly more than 100 years old. As for the Frogs - say no mawah!
I understand that the Danes, who're not that enthusastic about the EU are celebrating by giving out free buns to the people. After 50 years of hard slog this is a reward? Ought to give the people a tax free year or something.
One guy I saw on TV in Italy complained that when Italy took up with the Euro, prices doubled. Yes mate and that's exactly why us Brits remain entirely and rightly so in my oppinion, very sceptical about the benefits [of which there are none] of going over to the Euro or Frankenpunt.
2007-03-25 04:29:14
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answer #2
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answered by Anonymous
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I am not.
What a mess!!!
Crimson you talk rubbish, people have been arrested for criticising the EU and the new laws for Europol allow them to do precisely that, bash down your door.
Do you think the new laws issued by the Labour party on arrest and detention were made up in the UK ??
Idiot!!
We are harmonising our system with the rest of EU where 90 day detention with out charge is already permissible.
2007-03-26 10:34:57
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answer #3
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answered by noeusuperstate 6
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Crimson Rambler - good answer, but your wasting your breath with these people. They don't listen. They don't want to listen.
Clive H - even amongst the ignorant, you are a beacon of stupidity:
1. UK traffic rules apply to all vehicles in the UK, including foreign truck drivers.
2. The UK is not the oldest country in Europe.
3. The UK does not have the oldest parliament.
4. Prices in Italy did not double when the Euro was introduced (perhaps the media found an Italian who is a gullible as you are).
5. Parts of England are South of Dover. Try looking at a map.
6. and if you don't think the Europeans are related to us in terms of history and culture, perhaps you should try reading a histroy book, or try to find out about "our" culture.
2007-03-25 14:01:39
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answer #4
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answered by Anonymous
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I understand that the continentals are celebrating it. My sister in Holland says there is all manner of `special` things going on. I don`t think most Brits are even aware it is the 50th anniversary!
2007-03-25 02:46:53
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answered by Social Science Lady 7
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Exactly what do you mean by 'dictatorship'?
If it's a 'dictatorship', how come countries can stick 2 fingers up to the Brussels administration if they want to, as in when the French government refused to lift the EC ban on UK Beef imports? The EC was powerless to force the French government to change and had no choice but to wait until the latter deemed UK beef fit for its own people to eat.
The EU isn't a dictatorship. It has an elected Parliament which makes the European laws and regulations, and the administrative sector at Brussels is responsible for issuing the directives for them to be implemented.
However, they can't force the member states to implement the directives, nor enforce them. That can only be done by the governments of the individual member states, through their respective parliaments, which are likewise elected.
I assume you are British and go to the pub once in a while. You may have noticed that the beer is still served in pints, even though beer in the rest of EU is served in metric measures.
This is because the brewing industry lobbied the UK government, who in turn went to the EU Parliament and asked for an exemption for the UK for beer to be served in pints, and the EU Parliament duly agreed. Btw spirits at the bar and drinks at the off-licence have been sold in metric measures for years, but nobody seems that bothered.
As to prices going up as a result of the change to the Euro, this is happening because unscrupulous people in the market are taking unfair advantage of the currency change to make an extra profit. It's despicable, but the EC is not responsible. The same complaint was made following decimalisation in the UK and that was nothing to do with the EU (it happened in 1971, 2 years before the UK joined).
Incidentally, the UK government should imo have held a referendum over this important change, but they didn't. They just imposed it. The Euro has been implemented in all but 3 of the member states. All the member states bar the UK held a referendum and of those, all but 2 voted in favour of the Euro.
The UK government has so far refused to hold a referendum. While public opinion in the UK itself is divided on the issue, no doubt the EC would rather they did, but they can't force the issue.
It's the same with taxation. The EC has no jurisdiction whatsoever over this, so governments can charge whatever tax they like. Hence the massively-inflated petrol tax in the UK. If the EC were to issue a directive tomorrow that the UK should bring its petrol taxes in line with the rest of Europe, would anyone in the UK complain? I doubt it.
However, for reasons stated above, this is not going to happen.
And finally, you can moan to your heart's content about the EU and how dreadful it is, and how we'd all be better off out of it, without fear of someone knocking on your door in the middle of the night.
'nuff said :-)
2007-03-25 09:50:26
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answered by squeaky guinea pig 7
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Individual freedom is the dream of our age. It's what our leaders promise to give us, it defines how we think of ourselves and, repeatedly, we have gone to war to impose freedom around the world. But if you step back and look at what freedom actually means for us today, it's a strange and limited kind of freedom.
Politicians promised to liberate us from the old dead hand of bureaucracy, but they have created an evermore controlling system of social management, driven by targets and numbers. Governments committed to freedom of choice have presided over a rise in inequality and a dramatic collapse in social mobility. And abroad, in Iraq and Afghanistan, the attempt to enforce freedom has led to bloody mayhem and the rise of an authoritarian anti-democratic Islamism. This, in turn, has helped inspire terrorist attacks in Britain. In response, the Government has dismantled long-standing laws designed to protect our freedom.
The origins of our contemporary, narrow idea of freedom.
shows how a simplistic model of human beings as self-seeking, almost robotic, creatures led to today's idea of freedom. This model was derived from ideas and techniques developed by nuclear strategists during the Cold War to control the behaviour of the Soviet enemy.
Mathematicians such as John Nash developed paranoid game theories whose equations required people to be seen as selfish and isolated creatures, constantly monitoring each other suspiciously – always intent on their own advantage.
This model was then developed by genetic biologists, anthropologists, radical psychiatrists and free market economists, and has come to dominate both political thinking since the Seventies and the way people think about themselves as human beings.
However, within this simplistic idea lay the seeds of new forms of control. And what people have forgotten is that there are other ideas of freedom. We are, in a trap of our own making that controls us, deprives us of meaning and causes death and chaos abroad.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/noise/?id=trap
2007-03-28 05:29:19
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answer #7
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answered by Anonymous
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No-one gives a toss!
50 years of our esteemed leaders driving the ever lengthening gravy train
yay. . .!
2007-03-25 17:06:06
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answered by RedSnook 5
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50 yrs of british traitors feeding of the enemies gravy train.
i will do my celebrating when we come out.
2007-03-25 17:37:02
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answered by trucker 5
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Make the best of it while you can. By the end of the century Europe will be the Islamic union of Eurabia and then people will come to understand what the word dictatirship really means. It doesn't bother me, I'm an old man and won't be here to see it.
2007-03-25 03:17:50
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answered by mick t 5
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