Do you believe the Holy Bible as true? read details or move on.?

Question

The older I get, the more I see and learn, the more convinced I become that all people everywhere believe the Bible. Even those who do not even have a Bible believe its primary principles without realizing it. It appears to me that even the worst hypocrite, the vilest atheist, even those people believe the Holy Bible.

The difference seems to be whether or not they believe IN the Holy Bible.

One does not see someone going down the street, robbing, killing, and raping everyone they see, destroying everything they do not like, and one would expect this if my analysis was wrong.

So what I am really asking is, do you agree with this analysis, and if not, why?

Pay attention to the question, I know that people do not believe IN the Holy Bible -- those people are all over the place. I believe that they are the vast majority and fill the churches.

I still think that those people believe that the Holy Bible is true.

Also, I know that someone might not kill everyone at all times, but my point is, if they wanted to kill someone, why wouldn't they? I believe the answer is that they KNOW that they believe the Holy Bible is true, and that everyone else does too, so they are too afraid that they will not get away with murder.

Answer 1

I think what you are saying is basically that mankind has the moral laws written into its hearts and minds by the Ultimate Moral Authority, God. The fact that persons everywhere know that some actions are "bad" or "evil" means that a moral authority exists beyond themselves.

What you are saying above has been cast as one of the arguments for the existence of God:

1. If God does not exist, objective moral values do not exist.
2. Evil exists.
3. Therefore, objective values exist. (Some things are really evil.)
4. Therefore, God exists.

One cannot be moral without some higher standard of morality. The fact that believers are moral makes logical and philosophical sense, since they believe a supreme being of perfect righteousness, who demands a standard of conduct, exists. For non-believers to claim any sort of moral code is to, by definition, accept that a higher moral authority exists. How is that possible if one believes in "nothing"?

Yet, literally, for non-believers, having Aunt Sue over for dinner is just as easily Having Aunt Sue for dinner, as there are no moral absolutes in the non-believer’s philosophy.

Non-belief is not a rational decision, but rather a moral one. Non-belief’s key focus is to remove external constraints so that one can live as one wishes to live, without true regard to an authority.

Non-believers like Dawkins imagine themselves as a liberator. In reality, they are proponents of the first lie told. Therein lays the non-believer’s paradox. Christianity looks to a higher moral authority for its beliefs and the origin of the moral code within us all. No one has to tell us murder is wrong, poking a babies eyes out is bad, etc. Yet, non-believers, who claim to believe in nothing, actually possess a moral code. For the intellectual non-believer, this moral code is a by-product of the survival of the fittest mechanisms, yet their intellectualization of this rebuttal to the paradox falls short of the philosophical mark. Philosophically speaking, believing in a moral authority, even if it is the laws of nature, places atheists strictly within the religion camp, albeit on very shaky philosophical and theological grounds.

And the fact that some self-professed believers commit heinous crimes means that they may know the Word of the Lord, but they do not know the Lord of the Word.

Answer 2

No, you're wrong. You also don't see anyone putting other people to death because they worked on the sabbath.

Your argument is a logical fallacy. The bible may contain some true wisdom, but just because I agree with some of it, that doesn't mean that I agree with all of it. And in fact, I think the Bible has done much harm to the world, despite the fact that it has some wisdom, and has done some good.

My morals do not come from the Bible. I do not kill other people because I have a deep empathy for other people, and indeed for other animals. I believe that empathy comes from a combination of the fact that we evolved as social animals, and of our capacity for reasoning what it must be like to be another person.

Answer 3

halo ..... generalisation again........ nobody is denying the bible wholesale, at least we are not denying it like some Christian denying what sciences taught. it is just the contradicting and perhaps you must believe in god or go to hell part and perhaps the you must believe in god part or even perhaps there is a god in this world part.

There are things that can be learnt from the bible, that is true, the same thing can be learnt from other books too. As mentioned, from the way the bible is organised, it is written by men, not god.

Do you say you believed in the Dao De Jing, the Hindu Scriptures, the Buddhist scripture, the satanic bible just because there are some part that is true, or part of the primary principle is true? I sincerely doubt so.

Answer 4

I believe in the bible but don't particularly agree with your analysis, I have met a couple of people who are pure evil but do not walk down the street committing total mayhem where ever they go, this logic is flawed. You are also a little on the arrogant side telling people to read the details or move on as if you can dictate over others. There are enough gruesome murders being committed to contradict your analysis.

Answer 5

I believe many people, with or without the Bible are moral individuals for the most part. However, the difference between a believer and a non believer in the concepts put forth in the Bible is when the chips are down, Bible believers are "supposed" to and most often "Do" the right thing regardless of their personal feelings about something if they know it to be the will of God.

Answer 6

No. Your premise is flawed. You pre-suppose that the bible is the source of all morality in the world. This is simply not the case. Moral behaviour existed long before the ten commandments or any lawgiver god.

Human beings were building societies long before Moses supposedly brought the tablets down from the mountain. They existed under a system of laws brought about by the stresses of survival of the group. Any group of social animals has a set of codefied behaviour which all members of a particular pod conform to. Why? Because if they didn't it would be bad for the survival of their pod mates and therefore bad for their survival.

Morality is the result of millions upon millions of years of Darwinian natural selection. It is not the sole dominion of the bible. Moses just simply observed what sort of society he had and what sort of society would be best for his people based on observation and prediction and he wrote them down. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he got the idea from watching a family of chimps.

Answer 7

The men who wrote the Bible and people today have similar emotional characters that lead to valuing similar ethical structures, There is nothing in this that says 1) the Biblical authors invented ethics (they did not), or, 2) that modern people derive there sense of these ethics from the Bible. You have created a connection where none necessarily exists.

Answer 8

No I do not agree with you.This is very basic stuff. There are far too many contradictions in the bible. A room full of you type of people can take turns interpretting your idea of what any verse meaning is and all of you will have different answers. You fight amoung yourselves enough to take up all your time so why spread yourself so thin to ask this question to everyone else.

Answer 9

If you believe that morals come from the bible then you you must believe that they are arbitrary. That is to say, that morals come from god. If this were the case than god could just as easilly have said the opposite, that murder was good, that we we should all commit adultery etc. If morals came from the will of god that would make these things moral (before you say god would never do that, realize that such a statment acknowledges a standard of morality apart from god.)
God in his wisdom does not create morals, he recognizes them through his perfect wisdom and passes that knowledge on to his readers. Like god, but to a lessor extent, mere mortals can discover morals as a consequence of their wisdom, even limited compared to god's and so with imperfect understanding.
To claim that morals only come from god is to claim he is simply an arbitrary bully.

Answer 10

No I do not believe in the bible.
The book has some good stories, but that’s all I see them as.
I follow pagan laws that are older but very similar to the bibles laws.
I hope this help this answer your question.