For the Military, Is expecting Iraq to take responsibility for their country viewed as not supporting you?

Question

I just read that Cheney is saying that congress, by giving Iraq a time limit to meet their benchmarks or pulling out in September 2008, is viewed as not supporting the military. Do you believe that Iraq should step up and do their part as soon as possible? Isn't that the ultimate goal? Do you think they will if they're not pressured into it?

Answer 1

I DESPISE the "you aren't supporting the troops" line.

I was one of the troops until November, and I never felt unsupported when people were against the conflicts our military has been tasked to wage.

The military is an instrument of national policy, which is a civilian prerogative. You can believe in the troops without believing in the tasking. I do it.

Answer 2

Obviously you're not watching news that is reporting the truly GOOD things happening in Iraq. Iraqi forces are manning whole areas of Iraq that were formerly secured by allied forces. They started a whole new national security force less than 4 years ago... and you think they're not moving quickly enough? Not only do these brave men train constantly to become the best they can be, with the help of the US military's best... but they do so knowing that their decision to join the Iraqi police puts their families in jeopardy.

A recruitment was conducted in Anbar province a few months back... 50,000 Iraqi's showed up to be trained as security forces. I'd say they're pretty darned committed to taking over their own security. But it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out it takes longer than a few months.. or even four years, to get to the point that you have some seasoned men on board who are quality leaders....

Until that day comes, just pulling out would be like leading lambs to slaughter.

And announcing when we're leaving is like playing open-faced poker. This push toward naming a time... it's political bu!!$hit... geared to help the Dem's win the next presidential election... Funny.... I can almost hear them saying, "We TRIED to bring the troops home. They'd be home today, but the republican president wouldn't let us!! Do you want another republican in office??"

What's so sad is that many, many Americans will actually fall for it... not realizing the Dems have been setting that move up for ages... after all, look at the Iraq votes... actually LOOK at the voting records of the dem's... Remember the Up or Down vote they took a few years ago? All that hot air and only 4 actually voted to pull the troops out at that point??

They know what's right to do... But they're willing to sacrifice the safety of our troops by pulling funding or telegraphing pull-out dates... In the hopes that it might win them the oval office. It's sad.. very sad.

Answer 3

I believe that the Iraqi government and their forces need to take control of their country and provide their own security. After all, it is their country. But I don't believe that a premature pullout of US forces is the answer just yet. To do so at this time, would mean that the troops were not being permitted to complete their mission, and that has a demoralizing effect. Why pull out and let things get into deeper turmoil, and then we have to go back later and clean up the mess? Do it right the first time, then pull out. After Iraq is relatively secure, go after more terrorists in other countries.

Answer 4

This is just like Vietnam. We wanted South Vietnam to take over their own country, but they were lazy and piggybacked off us, which ultimately made them communists. Cheney is trying to support Bush, however not supporting the military would be like congress, oooo say, cutting the funds to the war.
Hurts the troops more than Bush. How sad that they are actually suggesting that.

Answer 5

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Answer 6

timetable = expectation - the Iraqis will know when we are leaving, I think they will rejoice and help us more and more as the day nears. my glass is half full.

Cheney thought process = Completely blinded by old tired ingrained philosophical, ideological, and financially dependent ideas. The guy's a jerk.

We don't need to pressure them, we just need to leave, it's really the obvious solution. we shouldn't care what happens now, we tried, half-heartedly, just for the oil, now we must give up.
Don't feel bad Mr. Soldier, it's not your fault at all. It's not your fault your commander in chief is an idiot who agreed to let Cheney and Rumsfeld do all the Warring in our name for oil. It's the Neo con Lemmings that are at fault

Answer 7

I think providing a time table only will change the military's approach and goal. Why would this be construed as not supporting the military?

It apears to me Cheney is grasping for anything here....

Answer 8

It would be like telling the Nazis in 1942: "if this war isn't over by 1944 then we're throwing in the towel."

The only question I have "is DDDDUUUUHHHHH" a real word?

Democrats in congress should be kept in a padded room with a bunch of Fisher Price toys to play with. They can't possibly wreck the country by doing that.

Answer 9

I don't care how we when as long as we win.... all this politicking is just slow-in us down, both sides need to sit down with each other and figure this out. All the arguing does is hurt the soldiers, so everybody needs to decide, talk or stay the course, but mission accomplishment comes first.

Answer 10

No... but cutting funding to continue to logistically support the war effort is a giant voice of non-support.

Thanks for only giving part of the information, it shows the true colors of a liberal.