Ok, maybe some of the higher-skilled jobs (doctors, scientists, researchers, possibly)...
But hospitality, agriculture, maintenance, cleaning jobs, etc that the undocumented, usually latino, typically fill? (TYPICALLY) Americans do not want these jobs because they simply do not pay enough. I worked in a restaurant once and we could not pay anyone enough to do some of the detailed cleaning we needed. Even people (Americans) that would complain about how they needed a job, or were about to get evicted, had children, whatever. It is hard to get people to do menial, low-wage paying work.
I don't see Americans in droves trying to clean anything, anywhere, pick any fruit, cut any one's grass, work in anyone's kitchen or clean anyone's hotel room. However, illegals come and do twice the work for sometimes a fraction of the pay.
They are dependable, hard working, and (I believe) deserving of every penny they can get for the jobs they do.
So, what jobs are they stealing from US?
2007-03-23
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No. You are ignoring the fact that employers want more profit. If they can hire good workers for a very low wage, they will hire the illegals over American citizens. American citizens don't want to do those jobs because they are not paying at the minimum wage. Why pay an American $12 per hour plus benefits, when you can pay an illegal $6 per hour without benefits? The illegals have changed the market, and have lowered down wages.
Employers can enforce sweatshop conditions on their illegal workers, under the threat of deportation. Do you support sweatshops? Illegals are modern day slave labor.
Vicente Fox said "Undocumented workers are doing the jobs that blacks do not want to do." Then after a press conference by Jesse Jackson, who considered Fox's propaganda racist, Fox changed it to "The jobs that Americans don't want to do." Why are you parroting Vicente Fox? The second source of income for Mexico is the money that is sent back by illegals working in the U.S. The Mexican government wants the cash flow to continue, that's why they came up with this offensive propaganda.
I am a rancher and I do not employ illegal aliens. We can save thousands of dollars per year in salaries and benefits and hire illegals, just so we can pocket the difference. We don't, we hire American, and have never had any problems finding American workers to work in the blistering heat. The reason is because Americans can't find jobs anywhere else. Allot of ranchers are hiring illegals so that they can make more profit. They don't pass the savings to the consumers, they sell their livestock at the same rates I do.
The business owner pockets more profit.
The illegal alien sends their money to Mexico, 4 out of 5 illegal aliens are paid with cash, and do not pay taxes.
The American taxpayer pays for illegals' education, health care, and other government benefits obtained with fake documents and ID.
Millions of American workers are unemployed.
We need American workers to pay taxes. The middle class of degreed professionals is not going to be able to pay for the illegals, and the unemployed American workers.
Homelessness is on the rise. More Americans are being laid off and watching their jobs go overseas or to contractors who staff illegal aliens.
Americans who can't see how the millions of illegals entering our country annually, is damaging our economy have their heads in the garbage (sand). This is not an issue of race. The American economy will crack if the borders are not sealed, and the illegals are not deported.
2007-03-23 22:13:00
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answered by Anonymous
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I'll agree with that, for the most part. I will make an exception though that some illegals are stealing jobs from 1st Generation Americans that may be from the same country as the illegals. There's a huge problem in California with many of the legal migrant workers, as well as 1st Generation Americans not being able to get decent work in the fields harvesting produce because many of the jobs are being given to the illegals who will work for very little.
As for jobs that other Americans have, who may have been in this country for a long time, I have yet to see in that case an American want to get a job, and couldn't get one because it was being occupied by an illegal, the exception to the rule I already stated above.
2007-03-24 18:56:00
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answered by AZ 5
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There are many jobs that should be good paying jobs that aren't thanks to illegal immigration,construction wages for example have been essentially stagnant for a decade when inflation is taken into account. After all how can a skilled worker ask for better pay when someone else can undercut him by 20% due to the fact that even with phony documentation they will be paying much less in taxes,or working on a csh basis and paying no taxes. Most of the construction companies around me hire the illegals as private sub contractors,therefore it isn't necessary for them to verify info like social security or do withholding. The illegals work under phony names and never pay a dime in taxes. So how does a US citizen compete with him,you have to take a 20% or better cut in pay in order to even be in contention. So it's much more complicated that you infer. Many illegals are pretty open about things to those they consider friends so perhaps I get to see more of it,they are after all my neighbors.
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2007-03-24 03:07:09
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answered by Anonymous
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Jobs in America are being taken by people that will work for sub standard pay are stealing jobs. Americans just want a fair wage for a days work from the billionaire companies.
No mater what they do as workers, they still are stealing, and illegals are thief's no mater what.
to Solve the problem:
I have been saying for years that we need to do a Constitutional amendment. We the People need to demand that a amendment to the Constitution states that if your here illegal, You or a born child on our soil can not become a citizen, you can receive no health care, medical supplies, welfare, or any other item that comes free to U.S. citizens, as well as stating that Illegals have no rights under the Constitution as to legal counsel, trail to stay here, or anything that can delay them in our country, just that they will be deported ASAP, to the farthest point in their own country, also in this amendment it will punish employers for hireling with harsh fines, putting owners and CEOs in jail for years requiring them to pay the lost taxes on illegals, lost SS, lost medical collected, lost school fees for teachers, etc., just keep piling on the fees and punishment.
If there are no jobs why would an illegal come here? If there are no jobs, free things for them to steal, no gift citizenship, no schools, no medical then they would go home.
We let in some 1 million legal aliens a year that take years to apply and come, why should We the People just give criminals (illegals) citizenship or any other thing we paid for all our life?
www.senate.gov/general/contact...
www.house.gov/writerep/
Here the sites you need as We the People to contact your Congressman and demand that this type law is done now, not years from now. Threaten to get this out in your area, to vote them out, etc…
2007-03-26 15:02:53
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answered by allen w 7
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The reason the jobs don't pay enough is because companies would rather pay illegals $5 an hour than pay Americans$8 an hour. It's greed by the employers.
2007-03-25 05:26:53
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answered by kwilfort 7
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There is construction, too, as an excellent example.
After the New Bedford raids, 400 Americans and legal immigrants lined up to get those jobs.
2007-03-24 03:50:19
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answered by DAR 7
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They work for less from the employer, and what ever else they need they get from the government . American citizens are helping to support them against our will .
The price of cheap labor is costing us more in the long run.
2007-03-24 01:50:09
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answered by clone_marshal_bacara 2
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Yes, they are. And, what you are saying is garbage.
Illegal immigrants DO cause wages to be reduced and that is when legal citizens won't do those jobs. Legal citizens cannot do those jobs for the rates of pay that illegals do because they are not willing and should NOT be willing or expected to live the kind of lifestyle that illegal immigrants are willing to live in order to work for such crappy pay, such as living far too many people to a residence - this is neither hygenic nor is it a decent way of living for people with children. This is third world living and it should not be condoned in the USA.
Illegal immigrants are not only doing the lowest of low types of jobs, as you describe, but they are moving into other jobs that Americans used to be able to do and provide at least an adequate living, such as jobs in construction and in factories. Guess what? Not ALL citizens have college educations and this is not necessarily just because all Americans are lazy and stupid, but not everyone has the same circumstances or opportunities or even the same IQ to be able to all excel in the employment world. Therefore, we DO have citizens who would be happy to do these jobs for at least minimum wage. Not to mention that many of these jobs used to be done by students while continuing their educations, but they are now finding it harder to find these jobs because the illegals are doing them at less than minimum wage, which, by the way, the illegals would not even be able to do if they were not working under the table and evading paying taxes and all the other deductions that a legal citizen has coming off his paycheck. As well, many of these jobs were traditionally done by senior citizens who liked to supplement their pensions, or by stay-at-home moms who want to work during the hours that their children are at school, say at fast food restaurants, chamber maid jobs, etc.
For some reason, illegal immigrant supporters and illegal immigrants, themselves, seem to have the mindset that all American citizens are either on welfare or are tremendously wealthy and far beyond menial types of work. This is far from the truth. No, illegal immigrants are taking jobs that Americans want to do for at least minimum wage. As well, I will add that employers of illegal immigrants are abusing human beings and taking advantage of them for their own profit by hiring illegals at slave wages and they should be ashamed of themselves. If they really wanted to help these people, they would stop being so greedy and go about helping them get here legally so they can pay them above-board at the going rates and at least minimum wages so the immigrants can feel good about themselves by being bonafied tax paying contributing members of this country.
Frankly, I consider employers of illegal immigrants to be the very bottom scum of this whole problem. These employers try to tell us that we could not afford to pay for our food and products and services without the slave labor of illegal immigrants. This is such hogwash! The employers do NOT pass on the savings to the consumers - they pocket those savings for themselves! I am a US citizen living in Canada and I can tell you that Canada does not have the illegal immigrant problem anywhere near the degree that the US does, and yet our food, products, and services are very comparable in cost to those in the USA. The slight difference is mainly attributable to Canada's larger tax base for our more generous social services and medical care and to the difference of the Canadian dollar as compared to the US dollar. Therefore, if illegal immigrants were all deported from the USA, I do not believe that the economy of the USA would collapse. On the contrary, I believe that the wages would increase to a reasonable amount, the welfare rolls would decrease dramatically, and the cost to taxpayers for social services that are used by illegal immigrants and their anchor babies would decrease also dramatically. This is not even surmising that all illegal immigrants were deported all at once - do it systematically over a period of time, say 5 years, and the benefits to the USA would be realized over that time. The USA would be stronger than ever and the countries of the illegal immigrants would become stronger, as well, because they would be forced to make changes to look after their own poor people and make jobs for them at home and educate them, etc.
2007-03-23 22:30:57
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answered by Daisy 6
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Employers simply hire illegals instead because they work for less. It's this problemo that's causing standards to drop.
2007-03-23 21:18:18
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answered by Picard Facepalm 5
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You are so right and on the money. But how can you make this easy fact enter those hard hollow heads of anti immigrants?
2007-03-23 21:30:43
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answered by Anonymous
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