My dog is barking through his shock collar?

Question

I have a jack russel who is perhaps the most defiant and stubborn dog i have ever seen. We have a shock fence to keep all of my 5 dogs in the back yard. They worked so well that we decided to try bark shock collars on the 2 larger dogs, which are my border collie and the jack russel. He lately has been barking through his collar and his collar is one of those 6 stage shock collars and i know it is shocking the crap out of him but he still barks sometimes and then he squels cuase it shoked him. Any way i wanted to know if anyone has this problem and how do you think I can solve it?

He has the best shock collar and he has batteries in it i checked that already.

Any ideas?

Answer 1

I think you should learn to control your dogs through training, proper care and excercise. Not just turning a pack of dogs loose in the backyard. Perhaps you should do the dog a favor and let him find a better home. It's obvious you don't have any compassion for this "defiant and stubborn dog".

A shock fence and a shock collar are two different things. Perhaps you should try it on yourself and see how it feels? Shock collars can be dangerous and have been known to cause burns when dogs continue to bark with them on.

Answer 2

I am going through a similar situation and I really sympathize. My black lab barks at everything including people and children. She also snarls and growls. She is the most stubborn dog I've ever encountered.

I've tried the shock collar and it didn't work so great. My dog did the same as yours.. she barked and barked until she got really zapped, and then she only quieted down for a moment.

I've tried the citronella collar and it is a complete waste of money. I'm sure it works great for many dogs, but for a dog that is truly insistent on barking, all it does is make them bark and sneeze at the same time.

What I have found that is working is becoming the pack leader. Dogs have their own language. My dog felt that it was more my boss than I was hers. This had to change. After a few days of working with her, she barks way less. And she actually starts to quiet down when I tell her to, which NEVER happened before.

It was pretty simple. I started feeding her at certain times instead of leaving her bowl down all the time (only food, always leave water down all day). I started walking through a doorway first and making her follow. I started kicking her off my bed for a while, then letting her back up, then kicking her off again (because its my bed, not hers). She must now sit nicely before she gets her food. I won't put her leash on unless she sits nicely. These are all things that tell her that I'm the boss, not her. If you can, watch a few episodes of "The Dog Whisperer" that comes on the National Geographic Channel. If not, research it on the internet by putting the following keywords into Google or Yahoo: dog training pack leader

Good luck! It can be done... takes time and effort though.

Answer 3

We had a Border Collie that learned the pattern & would bark & not get shocked, maybe your Jack Russel has figured out the pause & when he can bark...but still gets a little jolt sometimes. If we put our shock collar on our Doberman though, he will keep right on barking no matter how many times he gets zapped, but he's not a very smart dog. We had to start using a collar with a remote, but both our dogs seem to respond better to the "beeps" than the shock. Maybe trying a collar with a high-pitched noise would work a little better with your JR. We also have an electric fence, and love it! We have a rental & made for a great fence for our dogs.

Answer 4

Some dogs don't respond to bark collars. It depends on why your dog is barking. If the dog is barking out of boredom, they sometimes work. If the dog is barking out of instinct, drive, or habit, they are often inneffective.

Many Jack Russells/Parson Russells are very stubborn, vocal dogs. Most are also underexercised and untrained. Your terrier is meant to be getting physical and mental exercise for long periods each day. If you aren't providing this, he's probably so frustrated that he barks, and the shock makes him even more frustrated so the cycle is self-perpetuating.

Bark/shock collars can work well if used properly, if the dog is trained well to begin with, and if the user is experienced. They are by no means a 'fail safe' method of making a quiet or obedient dog. If used incorrectly or on a dog with certain temperaments, they can actually make the problem worse, or lead to other compulsive, neurotic behaviors. For instance, a Border Collie owned by a friend of mine barked constantly. As a last resort, her owner used a bark collar. It worked great for the barking, but then the dog started compulsively chewing on her legs and pulling out her hair. If barking is a method of releasing pent up tension, frustration, energy, or a nervous habit of your dog, you may need to look for other solutions. Her solution was giving the dog to someone who wanted a jogging partner-- the problems have stopped since the dog is exercised several hours per day.

Your 'defiant and stubborn' dog is normal-- what you consider problem behavior is typical behavior of a frustrated terrier. The dog was bred to be an active dog, an independent thinker, and a vocal hunter of vermin.

Answer 5

PLEASE take the collar off!

I am not saying you're a bad dog owner for trying it.
I have been tempted to try it too, but it will not solve the reason WHY he is barking, and because Jack Russels especially are not very intelligent dogs, he will just wind up hurting himself.

You should be the responsible dog owner by getting a behavioral trainer.
He/She may be able to tell you WHY he is barking and how to solve it. Naturally that will take a huge amount of discipline from you.
If you don't have the time or money then put an add in the newspaper. Make sure you find it an excellent home that WILL hire a behavioral trainer or know how to train it and treat it properly.
Those are in reality your only two options.
Naturally you could take the collar off and continue to endure the barking, but please don't settle for that.
And PLEASE do not keep the collar on.
It's not helping you as it is, and it WILL hurt the dog.

If you love your dog, invest in it, or find someone who will.

I know life can be busy, especially with more than one dog running around, but please!

Answer 6

People forget an animal is an animal. They do not "love" us they respect that we are the pack leader. If you died it would eat you. Google it, it has been proven. Do whatever you have to to control it. I have two dogs and a clean allergy free home because I treat them like dogs and they stay outside. Having outside dogs is not cruel, it is treating them like animals. It is not abuse to put a shock collar on your dog. That is you being a responsible neighbor. Dogs are happier when controlled. They are NOT humans. People only treat them like they are when they are lacking the ability to make functional and healthy connections with other humans and feel like they need a "friend" in their life that can't say things they don't like. Feed your dog. Don't fight it or anything but that dog should do as YOU wish, not you catering to an animal by junking up your home by allowing it in. I don't care how clean of a person you are if you have a pet in your home you can smell it. People want to debate this but I can walk into a home and tell you right off the bat if they have a pet. Get over it people they are animals and are there to do a job. Quit confusing your animals people! You have been unfairly attacked for asking a question and trying to be a responsible pet owner vs your Pet's bit#%. You should not have to spend an arm and a leg on a trainer, the dog should be submissive to you. I would try the remote controlled shock collar. Or until the dog can learn to do as you wish do what a pack leader would do in the wild. Isolate it from the pack. When it feels like it is being kicked out of the pack it will shape up. Chain it up with a dog house in the corner of the yard away from the others. It will have a rough couple days but it will learn and when it does submit allow it back in the pack. People want to whine "it's cruel" is it cruel for a dog to do it to another dog in the wild? No it's nature. It's not any different. Treat it like a dog not a human. They can be a wonderful addition to your life when properly controlled. Make sure to spay and neuter that helps so much as well. Don't starve it and with a lot of breeds beating them won't do you any good. Just separate it and see how that works for you. I'm willing to bet after a couple days or week you will see a difference and gratitude for being allowed back in the pack. Good luck! Just looking at this from a completely logical point of view. People try to personify animals way to often. They do not think like we do and are not capable of the complex emotions we are. That is why you see so many bad dogs out there, people are confusing them. People need to understand the mentality of dogs before getting them. That makes you a good pet owner. Seeing how you are trying to control your dog shows you clearly are a good pet owner.

Answer 7

Hi, I understand that you are looking for some advice or resources to help fully train your dog or fix behavior problems. If a professional dog trainer is not an option at this time, or if you want to trt training your dog on your own (a great way to bond), I'd suggest you https://biturl.im/aUNVX

A friend recommened it to me a few years ago, and I was amazed how quickly it worked, which is why I recommend it to others. The dog training academy also has as an excellent home training course.

Answer 8

Dogs bark for a reason, not just to annoy you. You can't possibly expect them to be silent every moment of the day. How would you feel if you were never allowed to speak? Find out why they are barking and do something about it. Distract them, give them something else to do. You can't just zap a dog every time they do something you don't like. You have to train them and show them what you do want them to do. Be a compassionate owner and if you can't solve the barking problem or deal with it, give them to someone who will.

Answer 9

TAKE IT OFF OF HIM!! He's barking for a reason. He's either bored, trying to get attention or he's just "talking". Either way, quit torturing the poor thing and train him the way you're supposed to. I only have to say the words, "No barking" to my dog and she stops because I have told her and taught her well. Same thing with leaving the yard. She knows her boundries and where she's allowed to go and she stays in my yard. I've taught her everything she knows all without the pain of using any kind of shock torture methods. Get a book on training your dogs. It'll help tons.

Answer 10

There is nothing that will stop him. He wants to be with you. He needs human companionship and exercise. He is bored. Please allow your dogs inside and spend some times with them. They need lots of exercise (especially the Border Collie) and they all need to play and be around people.

Please STOP using the shock collar. They are very in-humane. What do you expect him to do? Dogs bark and become destructive when they are bored and lonely. Imagine if you were shocked every time you tried to say something.

Give your dogs to the humane society if you don't plan to exercise or be with these dogs.