do you know anything about impressive bloodlines? I have heard that if you have a horse with that bloodline to use him for stud services. Is this true?
2007-03-23 18:12:42 · 3 answers · asked by blondbaby74 1 in Sports ➔ Horse Racing
I look at it this way, there are hundreds of horses bred every year that have great bloodlines. That is just one piece of the puzzle, the horse has to have done something on the track to warrant being bred to a mare, and the same goes for a mare although people are way more lenient on that end. Every year there are around 80 Storm Cat's and AP Indy's and Kingmambo's out there (say 1/2 are colts), all of them can't go to stud, you have to filter through them and figure out who was the best of the crop, and those are the ones who belong to be at stud.
Many people get very impressed about who the horse is by, regardless of how many wins or even starts the horse had. Just being by a stallion out of a nice mare doesn't make a stallion. Same with mares, I get people calling me all the time wanting deals to breed their mares because they are by really nice stallions, but when I look through the pedigree and see no stakes winners in the first dam or 2, I tell them no. I would take a mare by some $1,000 stallion who was a stakes winner over a Storm Cat mare who can't win, anyday. That Storm Cat mare to me is an even bigger failure, than any other mare who didn't win because she is by a great sire and for one reason or another cannot win, where the cheap mare had every right not to do anything based on pedigree, but has the talent to win in Stakes competition.
With stallions they need to be by a nice sire and have a good race career, it is tougher if they are by a questionable sire with a great race record, those horses usually find their way to smaller markets. Take Skip Away for example he is by an unpopular sire, but was great on the track, made over $9million and has sired some decent runners so far. But he stands for $15,000 and I think he got around 40 mares last year, yet over 100 idiots forked out $20,000 for Forest Danger because he is by Forestry and won a stakes race or two and was unsound as hell.
Basically if you want to have fun and breed a few of your mares to your well bred stallion go ahead, but don't think you'll rake in the millions just because the horse is well bred. You need the hype machine for that, and it costs alot to get the agents to lie through their teeth and tell everyone how fantastic your horse is and to breed to it while picking up their 5% along the way.
2007-03-23 21:36:22 · answer #1 · answered by hoyo2_99 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Any horse can be used as a stud as long as they are intact and there is a mare someone wants to breed. I'm not sure what you mean by 'impressive bloodlines'. There is no one sireline or family that dominates pedigrees (aside from Eclipse from whom nearly all thoroughbreds descend from). The decision to retire a horse to a lucrative stud servicee (i.e. the difference between a commercial stud and a backyard breeder) is partially based on pedigree, partially on performance and mostly on the commitment of the owner to support their horse. Many horses are retired every year - those that never ran but are the sons of champions and those who's pedigree is not 'fashionable' but who won their own championships on the racetrack.
If you are seriously interested in learning more about pedigrees, start reading the trade journals such as The Blood Horse (http://www.bloodhorse.com) or sign up for the web-forum at http://www.pedigreequery.com
2007-03-23 18:37:49 · answer #2 · answered by Greyt-mom 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
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2007-03-24 00:14:59 · answer #3 · answered by enord 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋