What would you recommend for taking down something weighing close to or above 700 lbs? It needs to maintain a high velocity at 100-250 yards, and needs to penetrate deep. I now bolt actions are the most accurate, but I will most likely need to reload fast for another shot.
Don't ask what it's for, just could you please give me a suggestion.
2007-03-23 10:03:54 · 17 answers · asked by mountainboarding1991 3 in Sports ➔ Outdoor Recreation ➔ Hunting
If I told you what I need it for, you'd think I'm crazy and out of my mind. I 'm not going to hunt it, I just need a gun that will take it down IF it attacks.
2007-03-23 13:57:14 · update #1
Also, I don't think 30.06 will get the job done, or at least that's what people I've met tell me.
2007-03-23 14:00:34 · update #2
I thought about the Henry Big Boy .45 Colt Lever action. Ideas?
2007-03-23 18:40:31 · update #3
Fast action, close quarters battle, penetration on the outside of 250 yards? Hmmm, sounds like you need a M-14, FN-FAL, Hk-91 all chambered for the 308 with 10-20 round mags loaded with Extreme Shock brand ammo. (www.extremeshockusa.com) I would NOT use a pistol cartridge rifle if you feel a 30-06 wont do it. A good heavily constructed bullet from a rifle will penetrate a good 25-30 inches in most flesh. If you go on any guided hunts for dangerous game a 30-06 has been used to take it all. May not be the preferred choice but it has been there and done that. It has taken every living creature in north America at one time or another.
You got me wondering is this Big Foot or a Grizzly bear?
2007-03-23 21:09:29 · answer #1 · answered by Jon 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
M1-Garand - I'm surprised no one else has suggested it... And a 30-06 would get great penetration man... Look for a good old M1-Garand... it holds 8 rounds, semi-auto... and if it doesn't kill it @ almost 8 lbs it makes a heck of a club. Seriously though, those things will knock hunks out of 1" steel plate with metal jacketed ammo. For an animal you would probably want a standard lead tip round. Any good off the shelf hunting ammo would be fine. Just consult someone that regularly hunts big game with a 30-06 or 308 and see what weight bullet they prefer.
You could also look into a good 12 ga. with slugs for up to 100 yards. I have an 870 express pump with a 28" barrel and an extended rifled choke that is surprisingly accurate at 100 yards. I'm sure you could keep it in the kill zone on a 700 lb animal at that range easily, I keep them on an 8" paper plate easily at that range... barrel heat seems to effect the accuracy the more I shoot it the worse the pattern gets, let it cool off and it's fine. That long thin walled shotgun barrel just distorts a little with the heat I guess. But with a standard tube I think it holds 4 - 3" slugs and one in the chamber. If you used 2-3/4" slugs you can get 5 in the tube and one in the chamber (with the plug out of course...) But if it's not for "hunting" you can always get an extended tube that would hold 8-10 rounds.
2007-03-23 21:10:44 · answer #2 · answered by John Boy 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Bound's hubby here:
Actually, a bolt action can be fired rather rapidly and accurately. At 200 and 300 yards, in rapid fire matches, I am able to fire five rounds of .30-06 and reload and fire another 5 rounds in under 60 seconds with my M1903A3 target rifles. If you need more than 5 shots for something that big, you'd better work on your marksmanship!
If you think you can do the job with 5 or fewer shots, I would recommend a:
1) Bolt Action (Remington, Winchester, Browning, or Ruger) in either .30-06 (with 180 gr bullets) or .300 Win Mag, if you can handle the recoil in rapid-fire.
2) A Marlin 1895 (.45-70) or 444 in .444 Marlin if you prefer a lever action.
3) If you do not mind being limited to 3 or 4 shots, consider a Remington 7400 in .30-06 or a Browning BAR in .30-06 or .300 Win Mag.
EDITED TO ADD: If you think a .30-06 will be insufficient for the task you have outlined, the .45 Long Colt will fall far shorter in ability than the .30-06. If you use this analogy ... think of the .30-06 as a chain saw slipping and cutting your leg ... the .45 Long Colt would be like a mosquito bite!
Good luck!
2007-03-23 18:04:41 · answer #3 · answered by gonefornow 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
I would suggest a big bore lever gun in 45-70 or 460 marlin if you want something in a bolt action a 338 Lapua or Weatherby 30-378 would work I know a guy who took a Bison with the 30-378 and had no problems. On the sane note I have seen Elk taken with a .270 Winchester It realy is about shot placment.
Also if you realy want something dead you can always go with a .50 BMG if you can't kill it with that it was not ment to die
2007-03-23 19:00:23 · answer #4 · answered by J P 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If it attacks from 150 yards out it must be one mean mother. Personally if I desired protection from a large beast I would rather have a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with slugs. A double barrel would do the trick but a pump ( semi-auto if you desire)would give you up to 11 shots if you put a magazine extender on it and I would wait until it was within 25 yards before I shot to kill. One in the air might turn it back. African big game hunters use to use double barreled rifles. Nothing alive can take half a dozen slugs from a12 gauge head on at a few yards.
2007-03-23 21:41:14 · answer #5 · answered by cold_fearrrr 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
.30-06, 7mm Remington Magnum, .300 Win Magnum, .338 Win Magnun, .308.
Bolt actions will fire as fast as you can work the bolt. It really doesn't take long at all. And the number of shots made will never replace the importance of shot placement. Make that first shot count and you won't need a semi-auto.
If you are hunting dangerous game or need a gun for protection against big and dangerous animals then a semi-auto might be more suitable.
2007-03-23 19:13:04 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Ok lets talk a 700 pound target at approx 100 - 250 yards. And you want to hit it deep and hard. 30-06 is a decent choice its a hard hitter and won't beat you to death like a 7mm mag. now if the range was 100 to say 125 or closer I'd go with a 45.70 lever gun using a 525gr flat nose bullet its a slow mover but it hits like a freight train. And will drop anything in north america with one well placed shot.
2007-03-23 17:56:33 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Try a Remington Model 7600 Pump-Action Rifle in .308 Winchester. .308 Winchester is a shorter version of the .30-06, which shoots flatter and has a slightly higher muzzle velocity. Hope this helps.
2007-03-24 00:43:41 · answer #8 · answered by super682003 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It really matters what you're shooting at. Even a 6.5x55 Swede with a 160 grain bullet or a 7x57 Mauser with a 175 is enough for most animals in that weight class, and a 30-06 is certainly adequate, but I'd want more for brown bear with no backup (as a matter of fact, I have a 9.3x62 for those nervous situations). And I don't see a problem with a bolt gun if you're good with it.
2007-03-23 20:51:51 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
7.62x51NATO has some interesting flavors you may want to try
Ball, M59(regular bullet)
Armor Piercing, M61 (black tip)
Ball, Special, M118(long range)
Match, M852(better accuracy)
Saboted Light Armor Penetrator, M948
Armor Piercing, M993
All these cartridges will fit the M-14 battle rifle. It is sold on the civilian market as the M1A. it is a semi automatic rifle with a detachable box magazine. magazines commonly hold 10 or 20 rounds.
see also M-14 EBR, M21, designated marksman rifle, M-25, SOCOM 16
2007-03-24 00:09:37 · answer #10 · answered by Stand-up Philosopher 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋