Why does anybody care that the US government tortures terrorists?

Question

If it was some innocent person then fine,but these dirtballs gave up their right to life as far as I'm concerned. I think it's merciful that all we did was torture them.

Clarification:Mostly I was talking about people like Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who was on terrorist watchlists world wide for years before we captured him, not some dude we picked up off the street

Answer 1

Torture the Sh.. out of them. Make them eat Pork and cover them with Pig Blood. Let their wounds get infected and then let the Maggots clean them out. Wire Brush them and throw salt water on them until we know everything they know. All this politically correct BS we do makes me want to puke!!

WOW ........ is this laying it on the line or what?
The lady who wrote this letter is Pam Foster of Pamela Foster and Associates in Atlanta. She's been in business since 1980 doing interior design and home planning. She recently wrote a letter to a family member serving in Iraq ....... Read it!


"Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001?
Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan, across the Potomac from our nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania?
Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?
And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was "desecrated" when an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet?
Well, I don't. I don't care at all. I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.
I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in Saudi Arabia
I'll care when Abu Musab al-Zarqawi tells the world he is sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat. I'll care when the cowardly so-called "insurgents" in Iraq come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques.
I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.
I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights.

In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care.
When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have been humiliated in what amounts to a college-hazing incident, rest assured that I don't care.
When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank that I don't care.
When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and fed "special" food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being "mishandled," you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts that I don't care.
And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled "Koran" and other times "Quran." Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and ---- you guessed it - - I don't care! ! ! ! !
If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your e-mail friends. Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behavior!
If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button.
Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great country.
I am not deleting this, I am sending it on, but only after
I add:
--"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem."
-- Ronald Reagan

I have another quote that I would like to add AND.......
I hope you forward this such as I have.
"If we ever forget that we're One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under."
also by... Ronald Reagan

Answer 2

Well...

Here are my reasons for caring:

1. Torture is not an effective means of getting reliable information.

2. Where do we draw the line? Okay... let's say we have accepted that it is okay to torture a terrorist. Do we draw the line at bamboo shoots under their nails? slow roasting their feet over an open fire? The rack? genital mutilation? Threatening his family? Pretending to rape his 5-year-old daughter? Actually raping his 5-year-old daughter? With a broom handle? Killing his family?

3. Who qualifies for torture? If we are looking for a terrorist, do we torture his family to find him? How about his neighbor? And do we know the guy is a terrorist, or do we merely suspect it?

America used to be considered an ethical country. We no longer have that status. I want it back. I want to be proud of where I come from again. Torture is uncivilized, amoral, immoral, unethical and, for lack of a better word, evil.

Edit: the post below made me ill... How are we any better than what we are fighting against if we do what this pamela whatever says? to paraphrase Abraham Lincoln: I don't care if God is on my side. I just hope that I am on His.

I truly believe that the vast majority of men who fought in WW1 and WW2 would be / are APPALLED at what we are becoming.

Answer 3

we have released several people from Gitmo because they were innocent, how many more are still there that were victims not terrorists? Since we acknowledge that mistakes can be made then a blanket acceptance of torture is wrong. Plus, the Geneva convention prohibits torture and this country was instrumental in it's writing and passage.
If that is not enough then sit down with your bible and read about Jesus, if you still feel that way after then you didn't get a very good understanding of him.

Answer 4

I don't care. The problem comes with proving that they are a terrorist, not always an easy thing. Although if you can expand your viewpoint, we are the terrorists to them.

But yeah if they're a proven terrorist go to 'em with a scalpel and a soldering iron. They cut people's heads off and blow up children. However this grants everyone else (terrorists, other countries) the complete right to do so to a captured American soldier.

Answer 5

The 4th modification supplies residents with a fair expectation of privateness. Unless a warrant is acquired from a courtroom, the federal government are not able to undercover agent on us or track what occurs in our houses.

Answer 6

How utterly disgusting. I wasn't aware that there were still idiots like you left in this enlightened age.

These people you are accusing of being 'terrorists' aren't inherently 'evil' or 'bad'. They're just deeply religious people who believe what they're doing is righteous. Kind of like George W. Bush huh? So I guess if we're going to torture people for being 'terrorists' we better start with him, hadn't we?

The problem isn't with these so-called 'terrorists'. The problem lies with religion itself.

You are a bigoted, disgusting piece of trash. Have a nice day.

Answer 7

I guess you must be talking about things like went on in Abu Graib prison? We shouldn't be treating them like that. Without a doubt, they would treat us far worse than that, given the opportunity. But we should be rising above that sort of stuff. One of the American ideals is due process, another is that we don't go in for "cruel and unusual punishment". They should have trials and appropriate jail time, as anyone else. It is part of the American psyche, that we like to think of ourselves as the leaders of the free world. If we are truly to lead, then we must set a standard for them, instead of setting our standards following thiers.

On your additional details: Understood. And we should still be the ones setting the standards, not them.

Answer 8

Now, what if those people are indeed innocent escape goats, and not terrorists?

That's what some people seem to care about.

And that is the most likely scenario, DUDE.

"I'll crunch you into confessing that you are, indeed, a terrorist. I know you are, but I want you to confess"

Doesn't that sound like XVI-century Salem to you?

Answer 9

1. Flushing Quarans down the toilet isn't torture, just offensive. I would be offended if people flushed Bibles down the toilet, but I wouldn't charge those who did it with a violation of human rights.
2. I care because God loves everyone, even those who have so callously murdered as the terrorists.

Answer 10

I think you have to ask why they do it in the first place.
They are "dirt balls" to kill innocent victims.
I don't care what happens to them, but if you lower yourself down it doesn't make it right.
I am not a bleeding heart and I figure stopping them before is generally better. Pre-emptive strike, preferable without the loss of our guys.

Get A Grip.