Answer this civilians !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

Question

what right do you think you have to say, " stop whinging you knew when you signed up if there was a war you would be sent". being a soldier doesnt just mean we have to fight wars! some of us actually have trades and other jobs to perform rather than firing big guns all day!
for the better part of 12 years i served my country with pride only to find as ex military not a civilian, you, yes you lot were sat in your cosy arm chairs playing monty when youve not got the bollocks to sign up and taste a little piece of military life so dont scoof at those brave and yes they are brave military people who do what you lot could never.

for the attention of a true gentleman i believe sir that it is you who are the loser and not i.

for the attention of a true gentleman i take it from your intellect you have only a few remaining brain cells so for your benefit only answer questions that you can give an adult answer to as you spoil it for the rest.

Answer 1

As a "civvie" Sir, I have never had anything more than respect for what it is a military man (or woman) will endure. I wish there were a better word for "brave" Sir...because I would use that to describe those that have gone to ensure the comforts and freedoms of those home in the armchairs.

Whomever has ever insulted you...though, ever entitled to their opinion...will never know what its like to stand for a blinking moment, in your shoes...and therefore should step carefully when commenting on those that have been/are/will continue to be in the Services... Those cosy armchair people will NEVER be able to remotely come close to imagining what you've had to/have to endure.

This civvie, Sir...wishes to say thank you, for everything...including making this posting and thereby offering me the opportunity to reply.

Answer 2

Totally agree with you.
Having served 22 years in the British Army, I detest civvies who insist on giving their opinions on military subjects of which they have no experience or understanding.
The so-called 'whinging' as regards kit and living conditions may be a relatively new thing but I suspect it is because people are at breaking point and feel they have nothing to lose.
Very few serving personnel have whinged about deploying to Iraq/Afghanistan - for the majority it is a welcome chance to put years of training into practice. The actual whinging occurs when time on deployment far exceeds the guidelines that this government set a few years ago. Some individuals have spent very little time with their families in the last 4 years and are entitled to complain.


I could go on but as the majority on here are civvies I'd be wasting my time.



To 'A true gentleman' ,
HM Forces personnel swear an oath of allegiance to Her Majesty, her heirs & successors NOT the Government. And as UK is still a democracy, minority win or not, the current government is apparently "the will of the people". What was the voting turnout at the last general election? Yes, the public that are too apathetic to vote are who you would like to see deciding where HM Forces deploy!
I'd laugh at you if it weren't so sad.

Answer 3

i have been in the army....
but i am still with the bit that when you signed up you knew that if a war come up you would have to go...

i think the problem with the army today or should i say with most not all of the people joining are joining to get a trade to use when they leave and are hoping that a war does not come up...
plus i am sorry to say this but i was always told no matter what trade you have you are a fighting soldier first...

and just to stand up for some of these people sitting in they cosy arm chairs i think some not all would fight for they country if we were fighting wars that these people be leaved in....
but when done for doing 12 years for your country...we do need people like you... but do remember its the whingers tax money that paid soldiers wages so they are allowed to have a say...

Answer 4

There is a saying within Military circles and it is this:

"You should not have joined up if you cannot take a joke".

Most arm chair warriors are rather pathetic people who are afraid of a small bang and we real warriors are better served in Macdonalds by them and thier idiot children when we come home. So those that can do those that can't whin about those who do. I know i want a volunteer with spirit and guts when the **** hits the fan not a moron.

So Hurrah and good show to those who DO.

Answer 5

I was only a bloody cook in HM Forces (Royal Navy) but I would not have swapped the experience for the world.

What Civvies do not realise is that any military job is 24/7. On mineweepers and other small ships, I was the sole cook. I opened my galley at 05.30 so the lads coming off watch at 06.00 could have a bacon butty. I then cooked breakfast for the other 30 blokes, then prepped lunch (for the ratings) and luncheon (for the officers). When the prep was done, I'd be making things like tiddy oggins (pasties) which I would freeze and use when rough seas made cooking difficult.

I'd then cook lunch/luncheon, wash the crocks, and then do dinner prep. Whilst doing this, I'd be making sandwiches and other nibbles, preparing tea, coffee and kye (cocoa) for the watchkeepers. I'd also be making pies, sausages and other fare - the lads preferred my home-made grub to the crap from commercial suppliers. Then I'd cook dinner - one lot for the ratings, and a French style meal for the officers. Finally, I'd wash the crocks, sit down, and drink my beer issue, and whatever wine had been left over by the Officers in their wardroom. I'd have worked from 05.30 until about 21.00.

What impressed me was the fact that the lads who had the shitty jobs - out on deck in all weathers, handling wet ropes and rigging, all appreciated what I did. I never fired a gun in anger, I never navigated, and sailors knots only occurred in my spaghetti. But they bunged me tins of beer, and the Officers ensured I was never short of wine. Sometimes a bottle of Plymouth gin would appear in my larder when I was using the heads.

We all worked effing hard, but we all looked after each other. You'll never get that when you are gathered around the water cooler in a civvie office.

Answer 6

I agree with you there!! I am not a military girl and will never ever sign up because I know I would not be able to cope with it!! However, I am marrying my Marine next year and know what hard work it is even when you lot are not being deployed and my man spent ages training after his military training and has a lot more skills than just firing a big gun. He has seen combat but that's not all he does.

Answer 7

When you signed on for the army, you signed to become a trained soldier and serve your country in times of war. That is the conditions you agreed to serve under, and that comes first and foremost. Of course it means a soldier has to fight wars and any trade has to take second place to that. I was a National Serviceman who was sent to Malaya fighting against the Communist guerillas in the bloody jungle. We didn't know who the enemy was either. We didn't moan about doing our trade , we just got on with it, and tried to survive .

Answer 8

i admire you. My hubby is in the forces, and he joined up for a career, not to knowingly go to war!
If everyone joined up thinking they would be off to war, then there would be only nutters and sadists being recruited!
Anyone in the forces should be commended for being there, and staying there, as the joe public have NO idea what you lot go thru, and the conditions you live / work in..

good on you, for making people think..Tony Blair needs to spend a week or two on a ship,Or at a camp in Basra, or afghanistan.. maybe there should be a game show called career swap! Then people would really understand Navy,Army,RAF life!

Answer 9

Most civies don't think this way mate it is just a very sad little minority that always spout that ****! Hate the war, yes if you wish but back our troops 100%! Should be put up on billboards all over the country! Cheers J.

Answer 10

Don't hold back, say what you think! You are right though as far as some civilians are concerned. However, there are a lot who don't think like this and there are also a hell of a lot of retired members of the Services who back you all the way.