To Catholics why Jesus never cited from apocryphes books?

Question

Jesus when talk cited from various book of the bible an that books also cited from others that maybe Jesus don´t cited but they were used by Jesus indirectly.

Answer 1

+ Tobit is referenced in Matthew 18:10, John 5:21 and 9:32, James, and Revelation 4:5, 21:18

+ Judith is referenced in Philippians 2:12

+ Maccabees is referenced in John 10:22

+ Wisdom (of Solomon) is referenced in Matthew 22:31, 27:43, Mark 6:35, Luke 2:7, John 1:5, Romans 1:18 and 2:15.

+ Sirach is referenced in Matthew 11:28 and 16:14, John 2:8, 5:35 and 15:1, 2 Cor 2:14, Gal 3:7, Col 1:15, Heb 9:22, 9:28 and 11:4, and James 3:1.

+ Baruch is reference in Matthew 14:13.

The New Testament canon of the Catholic Bible and the Protestant Bible are the same with 27 Books.

The difference in the Old Testaments actually goes back to the time before and during Christ’s life. At this time, there was no official Jewish canon of scripture.

The Jews in Egypt translated their choices of the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek in the second century before Christ. This translation of 46 books, called the Septuagint, had wide use in the Roman world because most Jews lived far from Palestine in Greek cities. Many of these Jews spoke only Greek.

The early Christian Church was born into this world. The Church, with its bilingual Jews and more and more Greek-speaking Gentiles, used the books of the Septuagint as its Bible. Remember the early Christians were just writing the documents what would become the New Testament.

After the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem, with increasing persecution from the Romans and competition from the fledgling Christian Church, the Jewish leaders came together and declared its official canon of Scripture, eliminating seven books from the Septuagint.

The books removed were Tobit, Judith, 1 Maccabees, 2 Maccabees, Wisdom (of Solomon), Sirach, and Baruch. Parts of existing books were also removed including Psalm 151 (from Psalms), parts of the Book of Esther, Susanna (from Daniel as chapter 13), and Bel and the Dragon (from Daniel as chapter 14).

The Christian Church did not follow suit but kept all the books in the Septuagint. 46 + 27 = 73 Books total.

1500 years later, Protestants decided to keep the Catholic New Testament but change its Old Testament from the Catholic canon to the Jewish canon. The books they dropped are sometimes called the Apocrypha.

Here is a Catholic Bible website: http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/

With love in Christ.

Answer 2

It has been commonly accepted that a number of the apocryphal books were read by the early church. the Book of Barnabas was just as old as the others and read often in early 1st century meetings.

We don't know all the books and writings Jesus may have cited. St. John ends his Gospel telling us that if everything Jesus ever said or did had been written down, there would not be room in the whole world to hold the books.

Suffice it to say, whatever sources Jesus may have used to demonstrate a point or lesson, Jesus taught truth.

P.S. and Bl3ss3dw1thL1f3, I will forgive you because Jesus taught that we must, but you are very offensive, filled with hate, and show much ignorance. Do you profess to be a Christian?

1. My God is not the God of the Dead
2. The 10 Commandements were not changed. Go to Exodus Chapter 20 to read them as most Protestants do, then flip to Deuteronomy Chapter 5 beginning at verse 6 to see them again. Here it is known as the "Decalogue" and this version is typically the "Catholic" version. They are however both found in YOUR Bible.

Again... you do not hate the Catholic Church...you hate what you THINK is the Catholic Church. I promise you, you're grossly mis-informed as to what Catholicism really is. Don't keep your head stuffed in the sand.


PPS: Hello Augustine, You have received a message from another user! From: Moises3702 Subject: Yes but i dont care the early christian because in revelation 2 Message: they receive apostasy inside the congregation and the question is still unaswered, why does Jesus never cited from that books?
ANSWER: Your point is well taken. Your point may also help support the same reasoning of the Catholic Church's Council of Trent where the 73 Books of the Holy Bible were firmly defined as the Canonical, Holy Inspired word of God. And this act also officially excluded the Apocryphal Books as being the inspired Word of God. If your intention was to support the Catholic Church's Council of Trent, I think you succeeded. Thank you.

Answer 3

Jesus cited from the Greek version of the Old Testament (the one that Catholics still use today) which is the one that had the 7 books that Protestants threw out.

AFTER the time of Jesus, the Pharisees, the same Jews who rejected Jesus as the Messiah, decided to throw out the 7 books of the old testament that where not in Hebrew. This is the version of the OT that Protestants adopted about 1500 years later.

The justification that Martin Luther gave for using the OT of the non-Jesus believing Pharisees was that those 7 books were not in Hebrew.

Those books that were thrown out were recently found in their original Hebrew form with the modern finding of the Dead Sea scrolls. But, so far most Protestants still won't return those books to the Bible.

1) The Pharisees never had any authority to decide for Christians that any books should be taken out of the Bible that Christians used

2) Martin Luther had no authority to decide to throw those books out either.
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Answer 4

The question is well put and is, perhaps to the revelation of some my reply does not involve Protestant or Catholic theology. I am Catholic and Christian.
First, Jesus was a Jew. Therefore his education as a Jewish boy was within the rabbinic tradtion. At the time Jesus was living there was no precise definition, a canon, of Jewish Scripture. It simply embodied the Law, the Prophets, and the Wisdom Literature.
Surely, Jesus was taught from what some today call Apocriphal books. For example, the Festival of Lights comes from the Macabees and John will have Jesus say, "I am the Light of the World" (Greek philosophy aside).
Therefore, Jesus knew all of the Old Testament and it was understood by him in Hebrew (not Greek) and he talked about it in Aramaic (not Latin or Greek or Hebrew). But just as it is evident from the replies, many of whom seem to know some history and some Scripture, you don't use everything you know in every answer. So too with the authors of the Gospels. They chose those Old Testament Scriptures that were most appropriate in explaining who Jesus is. It wasn't necessary for them to quote all of the Old Testament and put it into Jesus' mouth, just those phrases that would help a budding church come to know who Jesus is.
Remember, of all the Old Testament, Jesus is quoted as using just a few lines.

Answer 5

Hello, Lots of them but as a rule many are not into howling out in public, PRAISE THE LORD ALLELUIA, IZE SAVED! The doctrine of eternal security, once saved, always saved is rejected by the Catholic church and many other Protestant denominations since it contradicts what Jesus taught. We try to live each day in living the way he taught us and hope and pray not to slip upon the way or regress and salvation will be assured once we see God in person; he'll have lots of questions should we die in sin. You haven't talked to me about Jesus nor quite a few other Catholics I'd wager. I have a decent knowledge of his life, times and history of the Ist century Roman world. There are some Protestants good in quoting verses; even better than the Muslims at times but are very weak in history which should be studied along side of the Bible. One problem why rituals, may come up is because in some cases, especially R&S you get people making ludicrous, illogical statements about religious ritual in the Catholic Church in order to bait others and usually the arguments linger on those topics. Cheers, Michael Kelly

Answer 6

Did Jesus cite verses from all books of the Old Testament? For example, did he quote a verse from 1 Chronicles?
May the Lord's peace be with you!

Answer 7

Because Jesus doesnt speak to catholics, they dont love him. They claim they do the things they do for Jesus, but they do it to follow vain traditions and the pope.

Answer 8

The Bible didn't exist when Jesus was alive (if he was ever alive).


VLR

Answer 9

Pardon me?