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Dude, I'm an atheist, but which BS History Channel documentary did you get that winner from?

2007-03-22 16:00:33 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 2

Hi! I'm not sure if you're looking for a true answer but I hope this helps you.

1. Ossuaries 'practice' were from 1 century BC to 2nd
century AD. Book and film assumes everyone lived at
the same time around 70 AD. Doesn't explore the fact
that this tomb encompasses over 100 years. This is
more than likely a multi-generational tomb.

2. DNA evidence proves Mariamne and Jesus did not have
the same mother. Which further supports the idea that
this was a multi-generational tomb. No data shows
they were married, only an assumption by the filmmakers.

3. Dr. Carney Matheson, the scientist from Lakehead
University who did the DNA testing for the filmmakers,
has pointed out publicly that his work was overhyped.
"The only conclusions

we made was that these two sets [from the "Yeshua" and
"Mariamne" ossuaries] were not maternally related," he
said. "To me it sounds like absolutely nothing." He
added, "There is a statement in the film that has
been taken out of context. While marriage is a possibility,
other relationships like father and daughter, paternal
cousins, sister-in-law or indeed two

unrelated individuals are also possible."

4. No dating has been done on any of these ossuaries.
Jesus could have been the grandfather of Mary, or Joseph
could have been the husband of Mary. There is no proof
that they were all immediately related (versus
multi-generational).

5. The James ossuary was found in 1976 (photo exist and
dated by FBI). Talpiot tomb was found in 1980. Scholars
contacted the archaeologist that cataloged these ossuaries
personally. His name is Joe Zias. "“…the 10th was plain
and I put it out in the courtyard with all the rest of
the plain ossuaries as was the standard procedure when
one has little storage space available. Nothing was
stolen nor missing and they were fully aware of this
fact, just didn't fit in with their agenda.”

Conclusion: James ossuary is more than likely not part
of the Talpiot tomb.

Also, this film was released without academic review.
Now what the heck is that? Like Consumer Reports, they
review products to see if it is safe and to see if the
proper research has been done. In this case, scholars
were not allowed to see the evidence or the hypothesis.
They hired one scholar (Tabor) but he is a paid
consultant who wanted to prove this tomb as Jesus'
tomb since 1996. So he is biased.

There is hope however. A new book I heard about on the
news the other day, combined with scholars,
archaeologists, and scientists -- have now come to do
an academic review of the film. This is what everyone
has been waiting for. The book is called The Jesus Tomb:
Is It Fact or Fiction? Scholars Chime In [isbn: 0978834690].

2007-03-23 20:36:19 · answer #2 · answered by John Rosa 3 · 0 0

Cameron is pandering to the public and his "discovery" is just bad science motivated by greed:

- The statistical analysis is flawed and the person conducting the analysis has backed off their conclusions in an open letter to statisticians, stating "I now believe that I should not assert any conclusions connecting this tomb with any hypothetical one of the NT family." See http://fisher.utstat.toronto.edu/andrey/OfficeHrs.txt

- The name "Jesus" was a popular name at that time, appearing in 98 other tombs and on 21 other ossuaries

- There is no historical evidence that Jesus was ever married or had a child

- The earliest followers of Jesus never called him, "Jesus, son of Joseph"

- It's unlikely Joseph, who had died earlier in Galilee, would have been buried in Jerusalem

- The Talipot tomb and ossuaries probably would have belonged to a rich family, which is not a historical match for Jesus

- Fourth-century church historian Eusebius makes quite clear the body of James, brother of Jesus, was buried alone near the temple mount.

- The two Mary ossuaries do not mention anyone from Migdal, but just Mary, a common name

- By all ancient accounts, the tomb of Jesus was empty, making it unlikely that any body was moved, allowed to decay for a year, then be put into an ossuary.

- If Jesus had remained in the tomb, first-century opponents of Christianity would most certainly have found His body and put it on public display.

- Amos Kloner, the first archaeologist to examine the site, said the conclusions cannot be supported by the evidence but it's a way to make money on television. He would have nothing to do with supporting the movie's assertions. "It's nonsense," he said.

- James, the half-brother of Jesus and author of the book of James, the early leader of the church in Jerusalem, was martyred for his faith. Why does James make no mention in his letter that Jesus was not bodily resurrected? When he was about to die why didn't he just recant his beliefs and say, 'Okay, okay! My brother didn't rise from the dead. Here's where we took him. Here's where his bones are. Here's our family tomb. We made the whole thing up?' People will generally not die for a lie when they know it's a lie. Why would James die perpetuating a lie when it would have been so easy to disprove? In fact why would any of the apostles go to their deaths for something they knew to be false?

As I have expected, there has been **no scientific or historical find** that has ever been shown to disprove the authenticity of the bible's history or theology.

Kind of disappointing to see that all it takes is a press conference and a slick TV show for some folks to form life-altering opinions versus taking the time to rationally examine all the issues and dig a little deeper. It is the Macdonald's generation: fast, superficial, and never satisfying.

2007-03-22 16:10:20 · answer #3 · answered by Ask Mr. Religion 6 · 0 0

The documentary was very wrong, Jesus did not have a wife or children

2007-03-22 16:00:54 · answer #4 · answered by Angel Eyes 3 · 4 1

I'm afraid what you state is not true, it is not in the Bible. Documentary Shmockumentary if is not in the scriptures it is man made therefor suspect. Stick to the scriptures, they are the Word of God, truth. Jesus said "I am the Way the Truth and the Life, no man comes to the Father except through me"

2007-03-22 16:02:43 · answer #5 · answered by Steiner 6 · 1 1

Now you know nothing about Jesus if you are so gullible to believe the satanic lies that fiction that the movie told and it was a fictional account then mabey I can sell you my car that get a trillion miles to the gallon of gas and seats 66 trillion people ( no such car exhists and neither does his alleged family ) you really need to check your facts Gorbalizer

2007-03-22 16:04:18 · answer #6 · answered by gorbalizer 5 · 0 1

The Jesus I know did not have a wife or a biological kid....

2007-03-22 16:03:06 · answer #7 · answered by Redeemed 4 · 0 1

I don't believe it but I tell you this, Jesus was on as a man and if it did happen that( IT DIDN'T) way I don't care, because I still believe in his word and believe he died on the cross for our many sins.

2007-03-22 16:31:11 · answer #8 · answered by Chocolate Diva 2 · 0 0

You don't know ALOT about Jesus. Read His word and forget atheistic documentaries.

2007-03-22 15:59:45 · answer #9 · answered by Red neck 7 · 4 2

It was already proven that the documentary was not of THE JESUS. Don't believe eveything you see on TV.

2007-03-22 15:59:42 · answer #10 · answered by lyllyan 6 · 2 1

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