Could it be that, contrary to popular misconception/stereotype, women in the RELIGION of ISLAM, and not cultural traditions, are not even obligated to lift a finger to cook or clean the home, as she is the queen of the home? Or could it be that if she just gets sick of her husband or the way he looks, she has the right to obtain a divorce? Could it be that mothers are given the best treatment by children and that they are to obey her first above their father, as heaven is under the mother's feet? Could it be that taking care of your parents when they reach old age is considered a blessing as you get to care for them somewhat the way they sacrificed for you?
I converted after researching Islam for years. I have a 148 IQ and graduated from college with a 4.0 GPA and honors. Strong scientific evidence is also found in the Quran. I want to hear from other converts their stories of conversion and what caused them to believe. You are my brothers and sisters in Islam. Welcome :)
2007-03-22
10:24:14
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I said the religion, not innovated cultural traditions. Read the question before spewing forth an answer that shows you didn't actually read it.
2007-03-22
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hello fellow convert: i too have also taken islam as my religion and what you speak of is true but it must be written in the dowery before and witnessed but a women is 3 times more respected then the father because the mother is the one who carried her burden (baby) for the husband thus women are treated better then men and other reason to long to go into read sura 4 (nisa)
2007-03-22 11:35:05
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answered by d_elmasry@sbcglobal.net 2
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How intriguing that to justify your religious choice you had to, not only mention you were educated, but you also had to prove it to others by stating your IQ and grades. do you start every conversation like this?
if you want to teach people about Islam and break down stereotypes you need to change your attitude about people who are not Muslim. do not assume that the only reason people have not converted to Islam is because they fear the stereotype or they don't understand the religion. I have Muslim friends who come from beautiful families and some who live in families where the stereotypes are true, but this can also be said about all stereotypes. So instead of getting defensive and judging other people why don't you use you educational experience to teach people about Islam and to teach Muslims about Christianity and try and make a difference instead of feeding inot the negativity. This makes you as bad as those who judge you.
If the point of the question was purely to talk to other converts then you need to phrase your question differently the tone is negative.
2007-03-22 18:27:06
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answered by Anonymous
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You are simply proof, if your claims are true, that IQ is not equivalent to critical thinking. I suspect you did not get a 4.0 in scientific method or Aristotelean logic. And all of that is simply appeal to authority and non-sequitur. The issue isn't are you smart? The issue is have you made a correct assessment of reality and we have no cause to believe you have. Still I would be interested to know what college, what major and what IQ test? I wouldn't consider a degree in Hotel Management very relevant. But beyond that, the claim of strong scientific evidence in the Q'uran is a claim frequently made by Islamic proselytizers which on examination amounts to giving credit for specificity in other otherwise vague passages. nonetheless, the fact that the authors were not complete scientific illiterates does not support their claims of divine revelation of themselves. The Greeks had a very complete atomic theory developed without any instrumentation, but they believed in the Olympian Pantheon. Aristotle was a smart guy, but that doesn't make Zeus real.
2007-03-22 17:46:32
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answered by Anonymous
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Muslimah, let me first say I believe what you say about women in Islam. I have a dear friend who was raised Muslim, and he has told me the same things. He does abide by those beliefs in terms of how he treats women. He is an absolute sweetheart.
But my question to you is this - where in the world is this kept in practice? All we see or hear about is abuse and horrors toward women, and all related to Islam. I understand that these are cultural practices and not a part of the actual religion.
I would like to know where and how this is really being practiced in day-to-day life.
2007-03-22 18:29:58
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answered by milomax 6
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If you believe those things, you could not be all that bright.
By the way did you know that in Islam a husband who wants to divorce his wife needs to tell her four times: I divorce you...
and it's done. Now, a wife has no such right.
Nothing she can do about it either.
And could it be that his other wives do all the housework?
So much for equality.
2007-03-22 21:07:44
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answered by Freddy F 4
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I wasn't going to say anything, but lady....You must have all your time reading old propaganda. There's no doubt that almost everyone on this forum has seen the Islamic treatment of women. They've heard it from Islamic women.
And it is all demeaning and akin to slavery.
I've been studying religions for 60 years. I've taught at University level. Islam is right their on my list with some African religions that cut away women's clitoris.
Tell your bosses that their scripts are out of date. They might not realize yet, in their fanaticism.
2007-03-22 17:49:20
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answered by Terry 7
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religion mimicks culture, just as culture mimicks religion.
in the areas that they are founded they are nearly one and the same.
in America a convert to Islam has a very different life than a person raised in Islam in Saudi Arabia.
2007-03-22 17:58:58
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answered by Anonymous
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Nice to hear someone speak so highly of their new found religion you speak of it almost as much as your own accomplishments in life and your educational achievements however there are more intelligent individuals and as for you college the world always needs better cooks/chefs. But it was/is always nice to hear that someone is STARTING to learn a religion that they feel comfortable with keep studying and learning.
2007-03-22 17:51:37
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answered by S.O.S. 5
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To bad that in Islamic countries those innovated cultural traditions hold more weight than their faith in Allah... Jim
2007-03-22 17:45:15
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answered by Anonymous
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I watched my friend convert and be abused by her Pakistani husband and in-laws. They were multi-millionares visiting this country, but they didnt let on. My Muslim revert friend worked as a server at Red Lobster to pay the bills for the household, her, her husband, and her in-laws. Her in-laws slept on the bed and she & her husband slept on the floor. Her father-in-law would pound on the bowl of food he wanted at the supper table when he wanted more food and his wife was expected to jump up and serve him seconds, or thirds, or whatever it was he wanted. When the family realized my friend could not sponsor her husband's American citizenship due to her employment being mostly based on tips, I naively volunteered to sponsor him. I lived 1000 miles away but they had him on a plane less than 12 hrs. after my offer. When I needed to order a new birth certificate & such & it wasnt going as fast as the father -in-law desired, I received a nasty phone call telling me I'd better get my papers in order soon for his son's benefit, or else....or else what? I dont know...but I withdrew my offer upon the end of the phone call. I was obvioulsy being used. 2 months later my friend's husband and family were on a plane back to Pakistan under the pretense they were returning. When 2 months went by and she hadnt heard from them, she knew she's been had...and had a nervous breakdown. I sent her $200 and she drove to live with me until she was better. We were receiving the forwarded mail from her in-laws at my address and found that these devout Muslims were millionares many times over and had the money in several accounts. Despite my friend was "the queen of the home, " she never saw a dime...and she never heard from him again. I went to the mosque with her as she sought counsel from the Imam. I was appalled at how women had to sit at the back of the mosque and how during fellowship afterward women had to stay on the opposite side of the room. When my friend went to talk to the Imam on the men's side she was rudely taken by the arm and escorted back...and put in her place. The Imam also was not kind in his counsel as she explained her plight in seeking a religious divorce. Her motives were pure as an abandoned, hurting, spiritually seeking new Muslim woman. She was treated horribly all around. It was night marish...she has recently converted to Catholic. She likes ritualistic religion.
I dont care what the Quaran says about how women are Queens, etc...The Muslim world as I saw and experiened does not practice this way. Women are definately under the feet of the men and in my opinion emotionally and mentally abused.
I pray your experience remains different.
2007-03-22 17:46:23
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answered by AytymnRain 3
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