Civilian Deaths in Iraq?

Question

When you hear figures like 650,000 civilian deaths, has anyone sat down and made the quick calculation of how this is possible.

650,000 deaths / (4 years x 365 days) +1 (leap year) =

445 civilian deaths every single day for the last 1460+ days....

I follow what is going on over there, and no there are a lot of bad attacks, to many to mention, but this number 650k is absoluty ridiculous....

what do you think?

That´s possible, there could easily have been months were the daily average was 100, or more... but no way such a number has sustained over 4 straight years.

Answer 1

Your right. But the media and anti-war bigots want to give a "Shock Factor" to their fabricated facts to thwart our best effort to succeed in this conflict.

I am for pulling the troops out, but not before the mission is done. The anti-war bigots simply want to cut and run, so they use false propaganda like this to bolster their support.

Answer 2

Your numbers are too low. The time frame for that study (by the Lancet) was not 4 years, it was less than 3 years. The math for the actual time frame comes out to 743 per day.

These are the same people who first came up with the 100,000 figure after the first few months. What they do is go to the hardest hit areas, canvas a few terrorist sympathizers to see how many people they know that have died, then extrapolate those numbers for the entire population.

Even the Iraqi government said there was a max of 150,000. The real number is probably somewhere right around 100,000 these days. Too many for sure, but far less than what the Lancet came up with.

The sad part is, all the terrorists have to do is stop blowing up crap and we'll leave. That doesn't seem to be that difficult of a concept for me to understand, but I'm not a terrorist.

For the knuckleheads who gave me a thumbs down for this, here's the wiki link about the study. You can go look at the actual data from the Lancet there. These deaths are in addition to the combat deaths, not part of it. That's what makes the numbers even more unbelievable.

Answer 3

This is the first place ive ever heard the numbers reported as that high. Where did you get this at?
Regardless-it is very high. But i doubt if its as high as what you are saying. In Bagdhad alone they find around 50 bodies every morning scattered around the city of people that insurgents have picked up at random and tortured to death. That happens pretty much every morning. Then add up the daily suicide bombings and random acts of violence on top of that, it could easily hit around 150 a day.

Answer 4

And how are a majority of those civilian deaths caused? Every time I open a news paper I read about a suicide attack killing a high number of people.

Answer 5

I believe in those numbers. You can also check local population deaths (Military and civilian) in every conflict America caused or got involved. They will also look ridiculously high to you and you can stupidly and conveniently ridicule those numbers, while sitting in your luxurious dwellings. Go and also research deaths in the conflicts like Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan. You can also undermine deaths caused by Serbians to Bosnian Muslims, ethnic German deaths caused by allied forces after second world war. The list is too long to mention. You will keep believing researches on Holocaust and Holocaust deaths, yet never admit that your troops and aerial bombings have caused so much damage to humanity. You do not realize how much people outside USA hate Americans and their policies towards us. We believe that America today is doing exactly what Germany would have been doing if they would have won the second world war.

Answer 6

Isnt that number from the same administration that led us into the war under flase pretenses?

And lets not forget the 2 million displaced families up to date, and the anticipated 1 million more to become homeless and forced out of IRAQ this year...but
this administration reports things are looking better all the time.

Answer 7

It is ridiculous, there is no way that many civilians died. You do have to figure in a higher number for the initial strike with bombers before the troops went in but that number is way over the top. I mean we told them we were coming and alot of civilians actually left before we bombed..

Answer 8

Another way of looking at it.
If you were being polled and hated the troops won't you jack the numbers up a bit.

Like the poll that teenagers who have sex.
20% of girls claim to have sex while 90% of the boys claim to have sex....
Or when ask how much someone smokes and we you total it all up find out the big tobacco makes about 10 times that amount.

You Right it doesn't add up.

Answer 9

U have to remember something. We have a big something called OPSEC. They tell u on the news what they want you to hear. Those of us that are over here, right now, we know what's really going on. Trust me, that number is nowhere near close to the truth. For civilians and armed forces.

Answer 10

Hi, It looks that you are familiar with the numbers, but far from the events...
American troops had killed numbers that you cannot imagine your self, unless if you are in Iraq.
*For the first 10 hours of the war thousands we killes in the Southern Regions ( Basra, Naseriya, and the desert side...).
*At Baghdad Airport around 3 grants were killed( 'am adding civilians and millitary people).
*70% of the ijured people were died in hospitals.
*As for the next 3 days when the dusty storm sttacked, you can multiply those numbers by 10.
*Now use your talent in numbers and revise my numbers in a positive way.
Thanks.
Jamal Al-Atawi.
An Ex. UN staff member - Baghdad Iraq.