To all believers. Please don't misconstrue this, but?

Question

don't you think that when engaging a discussion about your beliefs with atheists or others that you should leave out the trite cliches such as "Know Jesus, know peace- No Jesus, no peace? Before I became a believer I heard the same expressions and I thought to myself," If I believe on this basis, does this mean this is all there is to it? No rational, logical understanding of who I'm trying to believe in- just in case I actually have to one day explain this to someone else?" I'm not criticizing you, but some of the comments I've read on this post are really lacking in persuasion. If I were at the crossroads trying to decide which way to go after reading some of the "positions" taken, very little would offer me compelling and sufficient reason to follow your lead. Reading a book like the Bible requires prayerful and logical insight to soundly crush an adversary's hateful speech aimed at belittling and discrediting who and what you believe in. Agree? yes? no? maybe?

Answer 1

I couldn't agree more! As a 'non-believer' I am not going to be persuaded by cut and paste tracts, platitudes or daft comments like 'I don't believe in atheists - everyone believes in God whether they know it or not'.

People are people. And I think we all relate better to someones example rather than endless quotes. If you want people to understand you need to go some way towards understanding the other person's viewpoint.

And say how something effects you directly. I think everyone is interested if people's lives have been improved, if they are happier, more contented and deal with problems better. If a religion can't do these things, why bother?

Most non-believers simply don't get 'being saved', 'walking with Jesus' or 'Christianity isn't a religion'. These phrases may speak volumes for the converted but they are virtually meaningless for most everyone else. Just talk in plain English about how you feel.

And remember, not everyone will listen, not everyone will 'hear'. Don't take it personally.
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Answer 2

yes there should be logical questions..

i've found few.. check it..

1) What is this universe?
2) What is the reality of this Universe?
3) Was it present ever since we know? And will it remain forever?
4) Does it come into existence in some particular span of time? And will it destroy or explode or... Vanish in some particular time?
5) If came into existence in particular time, then does it come into existence by itself or someone has made it?
6) Is it working by itself or someone is operating it or letting it to work?
7) Who am I? From where I came into existence? I know my date of birth + 9 months in the womb of mother... but was I exist before this birth too??
8) Its universal truth that everyone have to die… but is Death, the end of everything what we have? Or I will survive or exist after death too?
9) If I exist after death also, then what kind of life will it be? What will be purpose of our continuity?
10) What is Good and what is Evil (Bad)?
11) Does the kind or nature of Good and Evil remain same or it keeps on changing?
12) What is the reality of Human knowledge?
13) Is intelligence exist beyond our external five senses also?
14) Is there any source of ganining knowledge beyond our senses and intelligence? If its there! Then what is it?
15) How Human can be differenct from animal When
Human and Animal feels Humger(Search for Food,, Work for food)
Human and Animal needs shelter to survive like Lion needs Cave, Birds need nest etc…
Human and Animal have sexual life…
There are lots other similarities also…
Is fulfuling the needs of our life is the purpose of Human existence? If not then what is the difference b/w human and animal?
Is there something which differentiate human from Animals? What makes Human superior than Animals?
16) We know being Pious Man is Good. But why One have to be Pious Man?
17) Saying truth is Good or Right. But why One say truth when it give us pain,.. Loss…?
18) To Lie is Bad or Wrong… But why not one tell Lie, when it benefits us most of the time?
19) Honesty is the best policy. Who made this Law? Why don’t we deceive someone when it gives us a luxiourous life? Why being a smuggler or drugs dealer is Wrong??
There are more Questions which we have to think
Average Life span of human with intellectual knowledge is 30 years.

We waste our time in ignorance.. think more and work more.. know more..


May Allah help you and guide you

Answer 3

Of course.
To the prayerful and logical insight, add an understanding of logic itself. Often times the logic some use is illogical and once proven to be so, a debate can be won, or a point made, or a mind opened. Take care.

Answer 4

I do consider you right here - surely, it bothers me sometimes while human beings have such knee-jerk reactions to all questions like individual Bs. It style of makes astrology look undesirable. Reactions like that have a tendency to stifle the growth of something, because of the fact they point out staunch stress in our constructs that must be tied to private subject concerns that flow some distance previous whether our ideals are real or not. that is relatively straightforward to get emotionally related to our ideals, quite while they look so for sure real to us, whether that is substantial that we don't grow to be so related that we grow to be unable to differentiate between questions which could inspire extra effective information and questions that are purely stagnating themselves. individually i don't think astrology might in good condition relatively properly into the scientific approach, nor do i think of it needs to with the intention to be useful or 'real' in some experience. i'm open to seeing which way that is going to flow, whether it type of feels that astrology is extra of a subjective and intuitive artwork than a technological awareness. i don't relatively abide via this quite modern-day view that each little thing properly worth something might desire to certainly be surely scientific. scientific backing makes issues plenty extra credible, actually, yet at as quickly as-up technological awareness isn't suitable for all hobbies (quite many psychologically-proper hobbies).

Answer 5

I agree, it's the same as any debate - you need logical arguments to persuade others to at least consider if not believe your point of view otherwise they will just ignore what you are saying

Answer 6

What difference does it make. No one is going to convert anyone on this page anyway we just argue to make a little noise.

Answer 7

I think some of us try very hard to answer questions with truth
and respect.

Answer 8

God can use some of the craziest things to minister to people. Don't underestimate him.

Answer 9

I try, as much as I can, to give genuine answers. You can check my history if you want.

Answer 10

If you say so and it works for you.