Are there any atheists who are against gay marriage? Who think being gay is a choice? Or only theists?

Question

We have this debate going on in America on how we should treat gay people. Are they sinners? Should they be allowed the same rights as heterosexuals- such as marraige? or serving in the military?
Is the debate fueled soley by theists? People who believe that god told them directly that gay people are sinners? Or are there some atheists who believe in stripping gay people of their rights as well?

I've had this feeling that in 30 years we'll look back on all these gay marriage bans like we look back upon how americans felt about interracial marriage 40 years ago.

Sammer-
Fundies do NOT stay the same. They reinterpret the issues for the day. Dawkins refers to this as our 'changing moral zeitgeist'. There is much in the bible today that the pios choose to ignore as it no longer fits today's moral zeitgeist. For instance- even (most) fundie's wouldn't recommend *stoning* as the appropriate punishment for dishonoring your mother and father, or the variety of other bible sins for which stoning is called for.

Answer 1

There is little doubt that religion plays an enormous part in why homosexuals are not treated as equals, much less as actual human beings. They are spoken about as if they aren't even in the room, or like one would talk about a dog to others when its sitting right next to you. It is a sad and sick thing that there is even a question on how to treat another human being. That should be so completely obvious that one wouldn't even have to think about it.

Humanity is so very far off track, and I see religion as mostly responsible for it on a great many levels.

Answer 2

it incredibly is by technique of the fact a pair of homos marrying would not influence the situations between a thoroughly different male and woman couple. you only don't comprehend the context. gay marriage is of project to the business enterprise of marriage, which became positioned into effect by ability of the U. S. government as an incentive for inhabitants develop. Married couples proportion funds and have toddlers... maximum heavily, have toddlers. Homosexuals do no longer do something to learn the human race. Marriage has been between a guy and a woman because of the fact the circumstances of historic Babylon. gay marriage became in basic terms thought up interior the twentieth century. no longer even the Greeks or the Romans had it.

Answer 3

I agree with dze . To me , even if you are an atheist , the idea of being gay just doesn't make any sense from a evolutionary point of view. However I don't believe in treating gays with dis-respect and/or hatred. And not everyone who disagrees with the idea of someone being gay has any resentment towards those who are gay. Some do , they are the homophobic but it doesn't have to create any resentment. I don't agree with it but I've known many gays who are great people with good lives.

Answer 4

I've been an atheist for a long time but even when I was a Christian I believed gay people should have all the rights and privileges as other citizens.

I ope you're right about the looking back in 40 years....we'll have moved forward and made progress.

Answer 5

You should take your answer, then compare it to answers given to the same question 50 years ago. You'd see a big change; and that is the weakness of atheism.

The same process that made them go from being against gay marriage to being for it can be used to make them think certain groups of people are better off not having to deal with living, or shouldn't have civil rights.

Fundamentalists are so much harder to manipulate. They stay the same. You might not like "the same;" but it's not moving.

I don't want to contradict someone as intelectually honest as Dawkins, but if a person is that influenced by "moral zeitgeist" then they are by definition not "fundamentalist." Unless you are using "fundie" not to mean Fundamentalist, but as the Christian version of "Kike," at which point you've disproven your own thesis by engaging in bigoted behavior.

And for the guy below me, I said you many not like what they stand for, but a "Fundamentalist" does not change. Also, it is very hard to figure out why there were gulags, killing fields, the cultural revolution, and the concentration camps of N. Korea if Atheists don't step on others' rights. It's also hard to figure out how an atheist would come up with a list of "rights," what is the origin of these rights, and who decides who gets them?

Answer 6

I am sure there are homophobic atheists. I am not one. I have no problem with gay marriage. I don't see how on earth it threatens my marriage. Being gay is NOT a choice! I agree that eventually people will feel the same about the way we treat gays as we feel about racists.

Answer 7

I dont think any Atheist is that stupid to beleive being gay is a choice, nor would any atheist want to deny rights to another human.

I say we throw Sammer here back into the 1960's South and see how he likes how fundies used to treat blacks. Is that the kind of "staying strong" he respects?

Answer 8

Since the taboo against homosexuality in based on biblical text and atheists are against biblical text, I don't think you'll get many takers.
Also the same goes for politics, since many atheists are liberal as far as extending political rights (and so many Christians are reactionary conservative).
Basically, for an atheist to be homophobic he/she would have to be scarred in their youth or have a social bias against the gays. In other words, an extreme emotional reaction.

Answer 9

Yes, there are atheists who are against homosexuals. I find them abhorrent myself. I am all for gay rights and against bigotry. Yes, in thirty years well will look back on this ban against gay marriage and realize that WAS the way people looked upon interracial marriage 40 years ago.

Answer 10

I have no problem with homosexuals or other human beings. Homosexuals should be allowed to do whatever they want to do with their lives. Supposedly there's a separtion between church and state, but governmental discrimantion against homosexuals comes from religion.