Did Muhammad learn this from the true word of God...where God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit and they are one God?
2007-03-21
11:50:48
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Martial while you say allah says he is one So does the biblical God say eh is one and the three are truly one God.. I ask again why does Allah who does not have a son call himself WE? How is this proper language refering ot one? I understand the Biblical God's use of the word we.. It is that he is Father, Son and Holy Spirit and these are one God.
2007-03-21
11:59:54 ·
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Convictionist What assertion am I making? That the Allah of the Qu'ran refers to himself in plural? Read it and see for yourself.
2007-03-21
12:02:12 ·
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Jewish Girl The Bible which contains some of your scriptures indeed does refer to God int he plural as a Christian I have no problem wiht this.. Perhaps even the Jew's might wonder about this. Christians have an understanding of who God is and how the three are one God it is written in your first book of Moses is it not? I am not a hypocrite and am in complete agreement with the use of the plural refering to God who is one. Father Son and Holy Spirit are one God.
2007-03-21
12:07:47 ·
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Sarah, If being plural does exalt God could it be because he is more than what you inagine? In Chrisitanity it is used to glorify God who is one God but is made up of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. We are also created int his image of God having body and spirit and the two make up one living soul.
2007-03-21
12:10:59 ·
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Coexistaence agian you good people keep thinking Allah refers to himself in the plural as a sign of Majesty...if he feels being plural is majestic why would he have such a problem with being Father and Son and Holy Spirit? If this conception is so evil in the Qu'ran why would he refer to himself in such a way and consider it majestic? Seems Allah wants it both ways!
2007-03-21
12:17:10 ·
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Is refering to yourself as more than one majestic or is ti evil? Does the Qu'ran know? or is it both majestic and evil?
2007-03-21
12:18:38 ·
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Universalist .. why would the word We be better for Allah than the word I? It is clearly in the Bible because the God of Abraham was and is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The Bible shows that Gabriel is nto the Holy Spirit. The true God of Abrahm could using correct language refer to himself as
WE The Allah of Quran can nto as he says he is alone thefore singular and refering to himself as We is either a lie or incorrect language!!!!!!!!!
2007-03-21
15:03:07 ·
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Muslims PLEASEEEEEEEEE to use a plural to refer to a singular is improper regardless if the language is being used by a king or a prophet or God himself.. Plural words such as We means more than one it can not change because the Quran uses it to refer to ONE.. It would still be considered improper language, if you refuse to accept a simple fact simply because the Quran can not be wrong.. Just asy no matter what the Qu'ran is always correct.. the argument is senseless and moronic!!!!!!!!
2007-03-21
15:44:17 ·
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Okay the Royal We does exist but is it influenced by the book of Moses? Where God is Majestic and referd to himslef as We because he is the trinity!
2007-03-21
17:14:16 ·
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I'm not understanding why you think that referring to yourself as "we" or "us" is evil. How's that evil?
I'm also not understanding why it's hard for you to believe that "we" does not have to refer to the Trinity.
The Quran is clearly against the Trinity, and you know that.
Here's the answer to your question, sir.
"It is a feature of literary style in Arabic that a person may refer to himself by the pronoun nahnu (we) for respect or glorification. He may also use the word ana (I), indicating one person, or the third person huwa (he). All three styles are used in the Qur’an, where Allaah addresses the Arabs in their own tongue. “Allaah...sometimes refers to Himself in the singular, by name or by use of a pronoun, and sometimes by use of the plural, as in the phrase (interpretation of the meaning): ‘Verily, We have given you a manifest victory” [48:1], and other similar phrases. But Allaah never refers to Himself by use of the dual because the plural refers to the respect that He deserves, and may refer to His names and attributes, whereas the dual refers to a specific number (and nothing else), and He is far above that.”
These words, innaa (“Verily We”) and nahnu (“We”), and other forms of the plural, may be used by one person speaking on behalf of a group, or they may be used by one person for purposes of respect or glorification, as is done by some monarchs when they issue statements or decrees in which they say “We have decided…” etc. [This is known in English as “The Royal We”]. In such cases, only one person is speaking but the plural is used for respect. The One Who is more deserving of respect than any other is Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, so when He says in the Qur’an innaa (“Verily We”) and nahnu (“We”), it is for respect and glorification, not to indicate plurality of numbers. If an aayah of this type is causing confusion, it is essential to refer to the clear, unambiguous verses for clarification, and if a Christian, for example, insists on taking verses such as “Verily, We: it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e., the Qur’an)” [15:9] as proof of divine plurality, we may refute this claim by quoting such clear and unambiguous verses as: “And your god is One God, there is none who has the right to be worshipped but He, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful” [2:163], and “Say: He is Allaah, the One” [112:1] – and other verses which can only be interpreted in one way. Thus, confusion will be dispelled for the one who is seeking the truth. Every time Allaah uses the plural to refer to Himself, it is based on the respect and honour that He deserves and on the great number of His names and attributes, and on the great number of His troops and angels.”
What's so hard about it to understand that "We" in the Quran represents God's Glory, and in no way does it indicate Trinity?
If you honestly wanted to know the answer, you'd "think" about it and find the answer yourself. The Quran is not just for anyone, buddy; it's only for those who think, and the Quran tells you this clearly.
Peace be upon you, and may you be guided to the Path of the "Purely One" True God who created all the worlds and everything in them.
2007-03-21 15:13:26
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answered by ♡♥ sHaNu ♥♡ 4
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Supposedly, the word We is "better" than the word "I" and it's worthy of Allah. IT also lets you know who is talking, Allah or somebody else. This also appears in the Torah, but in the Bible its translated so that its not there anymore.
And in Islam there is Allah, the Father; Jesus is the son, but is not regarded as so, he is just a prophet but was "created" by Allah. That is He just said "Be." And Jesus was.
The holy spirit is the Angel Gabriel, who delivered the Qur'an to Muhammad. There are other Angels, but Gabriel has a special job as the Deliverer of the Message.
So no they are not one God, they are three completely different beings.
If you are not happy with the above explanations, perhaps this one will sufice. The plural might refer to Allah acting through the Angel Gabriel. Sometimes when the plural is used, its when Allah did something. He delivered the Quran through Gabriel so he might do other things via Gabriel as well and threre for the We is Allah and an Angel (it could be another one, there are many of then apparently.)
2007-03-21 13:15:36
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answered by YouCannotKnowUnlessUAsk 6
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To put it simply, maybe the shorter version of the very much so informative answer given by "Martial" ... God uses "We" because it is a sign of his Majestic power and that in writing the best nouns should be used. So there is no misconception about the number of "gods" it is only a style of writing, as thou is.
The word Allah is a noun that has no plural form, not like ilah (god) and therefore can never mean more than One.
I hope it's clear.
Peace
2007-03-21 12:13:12
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answered by Coexistence 3
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In Sura 3:105, The Qur’an explicitly identifies a party of men sanctioned to invite goodness, enjoin equity, and forbid evil. This party of men surfaces throughout The Qur’an not as Allah, the all forgiving and merciful God, but as fanatical aggressors who are responsible for the destruction of many towns and killing of innocent people in the name of Allah. One such sura below demonstrates the planned strategy of militants, identified as We and Our, killing people while they are asleep at night or in the afternoon while at play. Such chastisement could not have been committed by Allah, the ever merciful and all-forgiving God but by a fanatical party of men.
….Qur’an Sura 7:97-100. We afflicted them suddenly with chastisement, while they perceived not the cause thereof. If the people of those towns had believed and been righteous, We would surely have bestowed blessings upon them from heaven and earth, but they rejected the Prophets, so We seized them because of that which they did. Do the people of these towns now feel secure against the coming of Our punishment upon them by night while they are asleep? Or, do they feel secure against the coming of Our punishment upon them in the forenoon while they are at play? Do they feel secure against the design of Allah? None feels secure against the design of Allah, except those that are losers….
2014-04-10 16:56:02
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answer #4
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answered by Nicholas Ginex 1
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to glorify and exalt himself because He is the highest.
You know how kings would say "We have agreed to form a treaty..." or whatever something like this.
This is because he is glorifying himself and his kingdom.
Same thing with God, he says "We" in the Quran as a means of praise and adoration and things like this.
EDIT: also like the first guy said "We" translated from arabic(in the way it is used in the Quran) means "I" but the way i explained it above.
I hope this helped you.
God Bless.
2007-03-21 12:03:46
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in islam,
1.there is no son of god.
2.holy spirit is another name of archangel Jibril (Gabriel).he just archangel,no equivalent to god.
3.the word allah itself single,no equivalent,not plural.
Allah = Al (the) + ilah (god).word "the" clearly show allah is only one,no equivalent,so no trinity in islam.
2007-03-21 12:05:17
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answered by ? 3
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I totally agree with the 1st answer, also in the arabic language all the royal kings refer to themselves as ''we'' not ''I'' as sort of glory and greatness.
2007-03-21 12:03:02
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answered by rabab g 3
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allah does not have any kids or parents
there is only a prophet who is the messenger of god which is Muhammad {PBUH}
2007-03-21 11:54:58
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answer #8
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answered by Anonymous
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According to Islam, allah is god and he has NO son.
2007-03-21 11:53:19
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answered by Anonymous
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you could use the exact same argument against the bible. don't be a hypocrite.
2007-03-21 11:54:42
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answered by Anonymous
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