why do people justify cutting there cats balls off an at the same time rant about de-clawing?

Question

it doesnt make since. im against neither, however i dont understand how alot of people are cutting open there cats an cutting there balls off , then makeing other people feel bad about haveing thier own cats de-clawed. i bet if you asked a cat which he would rather have im sure it would be his balls, but thats not the point.
an dont say one is nesasary over the other because ethically they are both surgerys the cat would rather keep both so what do you guys have....

keeping the claws on for safety? so how many small animals die because a cat has claws? how many humans an other beings get badly scratched an hurt? an also the cat doesnt need claws for protection anymore they live indoors an safe unlike wild cats

they wander off if they arent nurtered? as if a nuetered cat is a stationary object? lol

THE IGNORANT: did you forget spaying? an also did you forget they put the cats to sleep while they do surgery?

i didnt say neutering an spaying is bad i said declawing is equal. neither is bad. just dont say one is worse. neutering causes issues too, but we should do it if we want, same with declawing, they dont need it for protection anymore an lives of small animals are saved plus larger beings are spared infectous scratches , i almost got an eye scratched out by a cat

ericka im only impressed by good points being made , showing your ignorance isnt very impressive

un is noone takeing into acount the small animals that die? the people an other animals that get scratched an possibly have there eyes scratched out like me? an yes i have over 100 hours helping animals at a santuary im not talking without experience

Answer 1

Neutering prevents unwanted litters and most of the time, it prevents spraying as well. Recovery is quick.

All declawing does is cause horrible pain for weeks.

Answer 2

Declawing is illegal here in Australia as it should be in all countries. Would you like your fingers cut off at the knuckles as they are in declawing operations? Both of my indoor kitties have survived, claws intact, without a problem. Yes, I've been scratched enough to draw blood from the kitties, but then again, humans have scratched me deep enough to draw blood too. They can, and mine have, been trained not to scratch like that. If you have a problem, such as being on blood thinners, then perhaps a kitty is not the pet for you (neither is a dog, since they can scratch deeply too).

Spaying, etc makes sense as, not only does it stop kitty from getting certain diseases, it also cuts down on the number of unwanted kitties around (both of mine were strays and are lucky they've found a great home).

There really is no comparison between the two - surgery for a human's convenience or surgery so lots of innocent kitties don't have to be put to sleep just because they were born and nobody wants them.

Answer 3

We justify it because we don't want more unwanted cats in the world. Neutering an animal is about protecting the animal, male cats roam, fight more and thus are injured more often, pick up and spread more diseases such as FIV and FELUEK. People rant about declawing because it a wholly unnecessary procedure by some pet owners who are more interested in a quick fix than trying to redirect their pets natural scratching behaviour. There are cases in which declawing is necessary such as when the cat is overly aggressive and tends to attack people and particularly children.
As for the question of ethics, do you know how many female cats one male cat can impregnate in a 2 mile area? Do you know how many litters of stray kittens are brought into local human society's and animal shelters all over North America?
There are your ethics. Spaying and Neutering is the responsible thing to do. Declawing is about owner gratification, it's like debarking a dog- pointless.

Answer 4

Neutering- low risk, 20 minute surgery, doesn't even require stitches, cat is up and running the same day, reduces risk of testicular cancer and overpopulation of cats which will then be euthanized.

De-clawing- done purely for the benefit of a lazy owner who doesn't want to trim the nails, highly invasive surgery which involves cutting through bones, tendons, and muscles, very high risk, cats can die, become paralyzed, or suffer life-threatening infections, serves no purpose to the cat, can leave the cat in life-long agony, creates personality and litterbox problems in the cat, prevents the cat from defending itself or climbing to escape should it get outside...

I could go on, but what's the point? No decent owner would ever argue that declawing is good and neutering is bad.

Answer 5

I like the way some are called ignorant, yet think neutering is like a vasectomy. Get a clue and look it up on dictionary.com. Neutering is castration, not tube tying.

That aside, I believe that spaying and neutering are essential to controlling overpopulation. I have had numerous pets and non-pets fixed and am living proof that TNR works. It is more essential to get the females fixed, but fixing male animals literally eliminates the risks of many cancers. The one thing I don't understand is how men think that a neutering is worse than a spaying. To spay a female is major, intrusive surgery. Neutering is outpatient.

As for declawing, I'm not necessarily for it, but not against it at the same time. I have (the number currently stands at 4) inside cats that cannot go outside for different reason. I have had cats in the past that can't go outside either. Whether severe allergies, stunted immune systems that they can't fight infection, whatever, if they were let out they'd die soon thereafter. These cats I bring inside to save their lives, and more for me than my furniture they do not have front claws. It greatly reduces the scarring as the rear claws only catch me 4-5 times a week. Front claws will, and have, caught me 4-5 times a day.

Before you all say the usual round of arguments, realize that all of these animals are rescues. Whether they were found scrounging for food after a blizzard or were abuse situations, these are not cuddly little kittens. To try to get softpaws on them would probably result in the loss of an eye. We can't even hold them when trying to pet them.

I don't believe in wantonly running around declawing healthy cats that can live and indoor/outdoor life. If given outlets, they don't scratch furniture. But there are situations where the health of the cat needs to be taken into consideration, and if it's a situation of declaw v. death, I'm sure even the cat would choose declaw.

And it does NOT cripple them. That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard. I've never even had them stay off their feet for 24 hours.

Answer 6

Unlike declawing which provides a benefit for the human owners but none whatsoever for the cat , neutering or spaying does provide a NET BENEFIT for the individual cat itself. Intact males are compelled by physiological changes to mate. Forcing them not to mate causes them extreme discomfort and psychological and emotional stress. The same can be said of queens (intact females). Moreover, the eggs of an intact female cat who is forced not to mate become encrusted in her overaries, which may lead to cancerous tumors. Unless one intends to breed their cats, it is therefore advisable to have them sexually altered.

Again, there is absolutely NO net benefit for the cat itself when it is declawed. Declawing is entirely for the benefit of the human companion. This is why it is considered inhumane and many countries have outlawed the cruel practice. These countries include:
England
Scotland
Wales
Italy
France
Germany
Austria
Switzerland
Norway
Sweden
Netherlands
Northern Ireland
Ireland
Denmark
Finland
Slovenia
Portugal
Belgium
Brazil
Australia
New Zealand
Yugoslavia
Japan

Answer 7

Simple, desexing has many health (elimination of cancers of the reproductive and mammary organs, prostate, pyometra and ovarian cysts and fatal sexually transmitted viruses) and other benefits for the cat AND the community (such as public health and the reduction of costs running shelters), declawing does not. There are alternatives to declawing!

There are too many unwanted cats being euthanased every day and if you don't breed (even if you do sometimes) it gets sick. Declawing just saves the owner a scratch here and there and their furniture. A cat can be trained and taught not to do those things, it can not be trained or taught not to want to mate. Cutting a bone off is far more painful than taking out reproductive organs (just ask an amputee who has had a ovario-hystorectomy), the effects of declawing can cause the cats other problems and pain and problems are long lasting.

The shelters see so many surrenders cats DUE to declawing, if they can't scratch, those teeth that are designed to rip muscle from bone come into play. The cats are often antisocial and distrusting and have litterbox problems because they can't scratch. Cats who can't scratch, don't or rather can't stretch upwards, which is essential for proper bone growth and spinal function. Cats who are declawed can end up with bad backs, ligature and bone deformities. Sure some cats are declawed and never a problem but the majority have issues and are antisocial as a result of the surgery or the pain from related conditions.

The top of the toe is amputated meaning they can't walk properly, they develop arthritis earlier that cats who aren't declawed. There is just SO many negatives to declawing and only one benefit, to the owner.

Research has proven that cats who are on heat and who are driven by hormones become distressed, they don't eat, their immunity is affected and they get sick. Birthing is also traumatic for cats. They can't be bred continuously, that isn't healthy for them either nor can they be left entire indefinately without problems.

In the wild, only 10% of cats born survive due to a number of factors so it's not a valid argument to say that cats have been giving birth and doing all of this for centuries. In this case, domestic cats don't compare. The advent of vaccines and other interventions has changed the domestic cat from it's wild ancestry physically.

In some places where cats (and dogs) are imported, they are killing off native wildlife almost to the point of extinction so there has to be some responsibility and control because of it's environmental impact.

Have you ever been woken in the middle of the night to cats fighting or mating? Do you have cats wandering around peeing and crapping in your gardens or on your doorsteps? Neutering eliminates most of that.

There are many more benefits to desexing for both cats and humans alike, declawing there are too many downsides and only one benefit.

Incidentally, where I live, delawing (tail docking and ear cropping) is illegal and considered animal cruelty. There are wheels in motion to make desexing of companion animals mandatory.

Shelter employees burn out quickly, it's emotionally taxing. Councils are left with the cost of cleaning up from other people's lack of responsibility. Cats are disposable to many people, one mucks up, you get "rid" of it by taking it and dumping it, or turfing it out and not feeding it til it runs away and then get another one. I keep my cool, but I almost lost it when one person brought in female cats because they kept getting pregnant, about 6 months later, she had obtained some new cats and brought them in too because.. you guessed it, they kept getting pregnant and having kittens! That could have been prevented. We're sick of the lame excuses!

Cats have claws, everyone knows that, if your not prepared to deal with the scratches then a cat isn't for you! In addition, the small animals that die? That cats kill??? Isn't that just the natural order of the food chain?

Finally, think about those who are cleaning up the mess of those who don't neuter and who do declaw.

Answer 8

There's a good reason for getting a cat fixed, One it will cut down on the unwanted pets in the world, and they wont run off, and they wont spray , but declawing is wrong, cause it's cruel and it's like cutting off a humens finger nails, and the cats need thier claws to protect them from danger

Answer 9

De-clawing your cat is like having an unnecessary amputation of your arms. People declaw their cat because they like their couch more than there cat.

There is a reason for "cutting their balls off," it prevents overpopulating the world with cats. Do you want cats to take over the world?

Answer 10

We are talking about two very different issues here surely....

Declawing is done to prevent the cat doing instinctive things and also to prevent damage to wildlife, however desexing is done to control an over population that in the uk, ferral cats are a serious problem and they encourage abuse, disease and damage to wildlife, so if you wanna discuss these common sense issues then feel free.

www.allpetsrescue.forumsland.com

Answer 11

Not only does neutering prevent spraying incidents and unwanted offspring, cats who get neutered live longer too, and are able to fully finction after the procedure. De-clawing on the other hand is more like an amputation, and makes the cat an invalid.