What if someone would have accepted Christ if they had lived one more day?

Question

Let's say our unregenerate person was to meet with the pastor the following day and would have gotten saved. God knew what he would have done had he lived. Did God plan his death so that he would not be saved? Is this predestination?

primoa1970, all you said was "I don't know". Is that an answer?

Father K, I wasn't talking about baptism. Is yours a canned answer?

Rocky Road, you are talking in circles. And Laurie J, you and the Irreverend said nothing. But you each get 2 points.

beano, you said nothing.

Morning Star, how do you know what God would or wouldn't have done?

NickofTyme, my choice, but where is God in this?

Notfooled, how about an interpretation of these verses?

jiloth7, if I presented a logical fallacy, which one am I guilty of? Go ahead with your honest truth, you haven't answered the question at all yet.

PaulCyp, that which is nonexistent now will be in existence later, and if God is outside of time, then he must see what is nonexistent now. We are talking about a person that would have accepted Christ the next day but does not even know it today. Am I missing something?

An_gel_on, you have the same answer as Morning Star's.

dze, God is the judge, but God controls the heart? So is he judging himself?

Peacetimewarrior, that's quite a reach, and that swaps places for a lot of people when they don't even know it.

Kent_shakespear, denying the existence of God doesn't answer this question.

John, it seems as if you at least partially agree with jiloth7 in that my question has no merit. Care to expound?

Answer 1

It is otherway around, God is accepting us

Answer 2

The question has no merit. Since God knows everything about everyone from the first breath they draw to the last and even before the sperm hit the egg, and since there is not one iota of knowledge He doesn't possess - your question has no basis in reality.

If God knew that the person would repent given one more day
He would have allowed that person to live another day and probably many more days to serve and honor Him. God is not into playing games with life. He is all about giving us the best life has to offer through His Son Jesus Christ.

It is amazing to me that so many people who ask questions concerning God don't do their research first, and then come and make comments that are irrational at best and show their
lack of understanding.

Certainly there are some serious questioners here, but there is more than an ample supply of those who have no serious interest in God and nothing worthwhile to do with their time...

I hope you came here seeking honest truth rather than trying to play games with words. I love talking with intelligent people
who are really looking for answers and are willing to share ideas.

Answer 3

Every single person has MANY opportunites to accept God. The Bible says, "Today is the day of salvation." That's why it's important to not put it off--you never know if you'll be here tomorrow. Like you said, God knew what he would have done had he lived--and God does not want to keep people from receiving His Son, so no, He did not plan his death to keep him from being saved. It wouldn't have happened anyway, and God knew that.
Predestination is for everyone, but not everyone will accept Christ, and God already knows who will and who won't.

Answer 4

God did not know "what he would have done", for that which is non-existent cannot be known. God knows everything we will actually do, because He sees the fullness of time eternally, not in a linear way as we do, and therefore He has already seen us make those choices and commit those acts - not "before" we do them, because for God there no such thing as "before" or "after". He simultaneously sees every actuality that occurs in time, from the creation of time until the end of time. But He doesn't see that which never happened, for the simple reason that such things do not exist.
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Answer 5

Great question!
Could this be the answer?...
God indeed foreknows who will recieve Him and who will not. Those who will not, He allows to die whenever. He may even have some of them strategically placed in areas of the world that will never recieve the gospel! He's God! He can do that, right? (It's not cruel if He already knows that they, by their own decision would not have accepted His salvation.) Likewise, being the loving Father that He is with countless angels at His side ready for deployment, He keeps those alive who will recieve Him, long enough for them to reach the date of their eternal decision. The Bible clearly states that He is not willing that any should perish. So, I believe He is in the business of keeping us alive rather than in the business of killing us off before we accept Him.

Thanks for a challenging and thought provoking question! I hope you find the answer you're looking for! Good luck!

Answer 6

Looks like this person had his chance to get himself right, but waited to long.
However only God can be the righteous judge. We can only give our opinion.
We are all predestined for the kingdom of heaven if we confess that Jesus is Lord in our lives. Many don't want to make that confession.

Answer 7

no, each person is given a life time to find that Jesus died for them and only the person can accept him as their savior hence being reborn believing that Christ died for you that he shed his blood so that each person may have the opportunity to spend with God,he is strong and mightiful but also merciful.God does not plan our destiny that's why he gives us free will its our decision to find him.He does not close the door to any he will always take a soul back he loves us unconditionally he already has showed that the question is to we love him to live by his rules and not our own?

Answer 8

I think he'd be in heaven. I don't believe that being saved is about where you are, it's about which direction you are headed. If you are seeking God, and your life is oriented toward God and his attributes, then hearing about Christ will just confirm what you'd believed before.

The people in the Old Testament lived and died before Christ came to earth... they didn't actually get the good news yet... but they are in heaven because they believed God, and if Christ came in their lifetime they WOULD have believed in him.

Answer 9

John 6

38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Answer 10

The Catholic Church has always taught of the "Baptism of desire" (Latin Baptismus Flaminis). This is a Roman Catholic teaching explaining that those who desire baptism, but are not baptized with water through the Christian ritual, because of death, nevertheless bring about the fruits of Baptism, if their grace of conversion included an internal act of perfect love and contrition which automatically cleanses the soul of all sin.

Hence, the Catechism of the Catholic Church observes, "For catechumens who die before their Baptism, their explicit desire to receive it, together with repentance for their sins, and charity, assures them the salvation that they were not able to receive through the sacrament"(CCC 1259).

No condemnation.

Answer 11

God is the judge of the heart ... the preacher isnt fixing a heart that wasnt "there" and ready ....God controls that ...