Why are people so rude to others who want to breed their dogs ?

Question

Today, on Answers, I noticed a question from someone who wanted to breed their dog. Most people who responded
attacked the person, rather than answering the question asked.
The tone of most responses was that if the person did not have a fancy registered "perfect" animal fitting breed standard. Then, they shouldn't breed at all.
Many people pointed out the number of puppies needing adoption at shelters. What these people probably don't realise is adoption isn't for everyone. Many shelters have rules so strict that a lot of people can't adopt that would normally give the puppies wonderful homes. For example, large adoption fees, requiring use of certain vet (usually most expensive in town), requiring regular visits to their groomer (is most expensive in town, again), requiring that you own not rent,
requiring fenced yard, requiring children to be a certain age
and attend classes in animal care, etc. Breeders of AKC
animals have even stricter standards.

Answer 1

our world is over-full of people who are willing to make assumptions about the intentions of other people.

it is always easier to attack and be a smart-mouth than to truly consider the question in a non-biased way.

I don't know if the person seeking to breed will see this, but if they have a good mannered, gentle dog that they can match a mate of like breeding and temperament to, they should ask around and see if their vet knows of people who are seeking puppies of that breed. They can also ask friends.

We are currently waiting on a friend to breed his female yellow lab. We are promised the second best pick of her litter and are excited!

Plus, also for the record, we HAVE done the get the puppy from the animal shelter routine. We have also bought from a breeder. Either way, puppies need training, food and lots of love.

Ignore the rudeness of the people who are only seeking points for hearing themselves speak.

enjoy the forum and make a mental note of the "rude" people and don't respond to them or read their posts.

:-)

Answer 2

I think most people getting attacked are the ones that obviously don't know what they're doing, and don't beleive that there are millions of puppies out there needing homes, and I've never seen a strict shelter, and adoption fee isn't even 1/8 of what taking care of the dog will b in just a year. If you can't afford $75-150 once, then you could have problems feeding that dog the $20 of food every month.

What gets me, though, is when people have the puppies and then get on here asking how much they should charge. C'mon, if you breed, you should know, and if you don't you're an idiot and prlly didn't do it well at all, therefore only enough to over the cost of shots/food/spaying the mother.

There's no really good reason to breed, and I'm not even all for the "bettering the breed" excuse because cetain breed standards aren't all the healthy. Then again, if there is an oops, better to answer with what you should do than what you should have done before it happens.

Answer 3

Some of the rules you mentioned are for the safety of the animal. A fenced yard will save the life of the animal. Unless you are willing to walk (half hour+) two or more times a day--a dog should not be in an apartment; thus the requirement of a fenced yard. When they have an accident due to being left too long alone inside, they are prone to being abused and/or returned to the shelter when in reality it is the owners fault for not taking the dog out...I have never heard of city/county shelters requiring particular groomers, vets etc. There may be some private rescue groups that have these requirements.

The issue of own versus rent again protects the animal and allows stability. The present dwelling owner may allow animals, The next owner of your present property may not. Or if you move the next owner may not allow pets-then you need to find the animal a new home. Job transfers, divorce, military assignments are all unexpected and often result in displaced animals. All of these "strict rules" are to try to prevent the return of the animal to the shelter. Having worked with animal rescue, these are some of the main reasons given when people give up or turn back their animals. It is all about protecting the animal.

Breeding to make money is a fallacy. Top breeders want to perfect the breed and money is a secondary gain. Backyard breeders just over breed without regard to good qualified stock/standards to make money. They will sell to anyone. Top breeders are very selective who they will sell their animals to and for good reason. If a person can't afford an adoption fee how are they going to be able to afford the proper vet care for an animal-annual check ups? annual teeth cleaning with anesthesia ?????

Answer 4

Breeders who are not registered or do not have the same knowledge are the ones who are responsible for breeding bad dogs. There are way to many bad dogs out there, back yard breeders, puppy farms etc. All those people who ask questions like "My dog is pregnant what do I do?" or "How long will it take for the puppies to come" should have their animals taken from then for negligence.

A responsible breeder must know about heat cycles, care and nutrition of a pregnant dog, assistance in labour, care and nutrition of puppies and have homes for all puppies before they are born or shortly their after.

Also, breeders should have the physical, emotional and financial means to take care of the mother and pups and all vet bills.

Blood lines must be considered whether registered or not. Otherwise, how can the puppies be guaranteed?

If a person is asking something like "I have a Yorkie that's a year old I think she'll be in heat soon, I want to breed her, what do I do?" Than the person is obviously NOT educated enough nor anything else enough to breed an animal.

The reason shelters block certain people from adopting is that MANY people are unfit to have pets. Proper breeders who invest SOOO much time, money and energy into their pups are even more involved and should be.

There are many knowledgeable animal lovers answering in this section. It is an emotional matter. That is why they get up in arms over idiots who go out to contribute to the problem.

You want good examples of unfit owners, check out all the questions that come down to the dog is a) not properly exercised b) not properly trained c) not properly socialized d) owner doesn't understand the basics of dog behaviour e) owner doesn't understand basics of dog well being. If you eliminate that, you MIGHT have 20 questions a day on here. Just another reason why pets need to be MORE regulated, not less.

When people ask a question and the problem is evident to everyone but the asker, the answer will likely address the actual problem.

Answer 5

Whether registered dog, or mixed breed, is not the concern I have if someone decides to breed their pet. The concerns I have is whether these people have taken into account all that they are becoming responsible for. Looking after the preggy dog is the easiest part(if you know what you are doing, and if there are no complications with the pregnancy) The work really starts when the girl is whelping: stay up all night aiding in the deliveries. Do they know what to do if the puppy is breach, and stuck, or two puppies are trying to be delivered at the same time,how to work with the dog to stimulate labor if her labor stops but there are still babies in her, ...Not all dogs just have their babies naturally. Are they prepared for midnight visits to the vets. C-sections, BIG vet bills. How about if the mother refuses the pups, or cannot feed the pups?...Are they prepared to take time off work, sleep on the couch , nurse and poop the puppies every hour for the next four weeks or longer....cleaning up after them, house training etc???.... I HAVE had to go through all of this.It is not all fun, but it is a necessity. I have nothing against mixed breeds, (even though mine dogs are all registered).....some of them are the best family dogs out there. All I am saying is that people must be prepared . Making sure you have homes for the puppies before you even consider breeding is essential, and remember....some breeds have very large litters.

Answer 6

Guess you stepped in a pile of dog p**p huh!!! Don't be put off by these people. It sounds like some of the answers are from "breed standard" people who don't understand what you are asking. And there are lots of people who are of the "please adopt" group and they both have valid points. I don't know where you live, but some of those shelter rules sound a bit suspicious to me, the vet and grooming ones especially. If you are interested in adopting a breed specific, there are rescue groups in your community and on the internet just for breeds. The reason some people get upset about registered breeds and keeping the "breed standard" is because of all the BAD people out there who abuse certain breeds, I have one of these myself (adopted from a rescue group, breed specific for Chow Chows) lots of dogs have gotten bad reputations by going to the wrong people, those who teach them to fight or be mean, or they are breed badly with other dogs to create something mean. It hurts the pure bred lines, that are trying to keep them true to their nature. Are you thinking of getting a dog? If so, I would do LOTS of research. Some of the requirements you cited above can be very useful in protecting you and your family and helping you find the right dog for you. My rescue group had stringent requirements and I would of been suspicious if they didn't have any and just wanted to get rid of the dog. As far as children go, I think it is a very good idea for kids to be a certain age and have some classes in dog care. It helps them see what responsible dog care is all about. Unfortunately, way to many dogs are purchased at pet store or even from breeders who are not right for families with kids or strict time requirements and the poor things end up in shelters or worse, dumped somewhere. Some end up abused because people don't do breed research or get training help and that is VERY WRONG AND VERY SAD!
I will just add to your example of large adoption fees, they are high for a reason, that being , it takes a lot of money for rescue groups and shelters to get these animals in good medical and physical condition so they can be adopted. I live in California where almost everything is expensive and I got my second Chow Chow from a breed specific rescue group and my adoption fee was $250.00 and I had a house and yard inspection and signed a contract, which included a clause stating that if we ever could not care for her, we were required by the contract to return her to the same rescue group. I think that is an excellent precaution and keeps the dogs safe. I hope this helps you.

Answer 7

Look, if you can't afford those "strict" rules, you can't afford a dog! It's just that simple... there's no arguement.

Other than renting vs owning, all of those are IMPORTANT criteria in owning a dog.

Just like in the rest of life, there are rules for a reason. And backyard breeders are what cause all of these animals to be put in these shelters that make these "outrageous" rules. If we could stop breeding dogs unnecessarilly, we wouldn't have these issues.

And other than unwanted strays, many dams & puppies die at the hands of inexperienced breeders. If you don't know how to properly handle the situation, your pet could face serious complications.

And what if you end up with more puppies than you want? What happens to those dogs?!?!

You are ridiculously naive, and that's not rudeness, it's truth.

Answer 8

So your saying that these people who want to breed their dogs are doing a service for those who can't afford to adopt from a shelter? You must be joking. I have never herd of a shelter having such strict rules most of them are overflowing with dogs and will adopt them to almost anyone. The adoption fee barely covers the cost of housing the dogs and if you can't afford the fee you can't afford having a dog at all.
My dog accidentally got pregnant before she was spayed and I felt terrible for adding to the problem. I paid for their 1st vet visit and their shots and then gave them to my friends for free.
I'm pretty sure the only reason these other people want to breed their dogs is for the money.

Answer 9

Well these people have the right idea in some respects the numbers of animals in shelters and being put down are astounding they belive every breeder out there is a puppy mill , and Im sorry to say its been my opinion of late I see dogs not being taken care of and just pumping out puppies twice a year . I do know that there are people out there doing it the right way very few . now why their rude its just people anymore I yelled at a person couple days ago for saying their dog has been throwing up for days and they hadnt even attempted to call or take to vet I dont apologize for it you need to be avle to take care if a pet any pet you own its only right

Answer 10

I believe it is because most are concerned about the pet overpopulation we have and the number of animals put to sleep every day. I do not own a fancy breed, actually my dogs came from "accidents" and I'm grateful for them, as I love my dogs but I believe most are well intentioned in saying that if you are not familiar with breeding dogs it may be best to leave it to the professionals. Most breeders are very good at placing their dogs in homes at which they hope will be good. I do not believe you need to have money to be a good pet owner, but there are certain things you do need such as space, a place for them to run, ect. I hope this answers your question, and you don't take offense to any of this, as I don't want to seem rude.

Answer 11

And it's bad to insist that a dog go to a good home? I don't know of any breeders or rescues that insist on a certain vet or groomer (although I know some make recommendations). What's wrong with wanting the dog to have owners who can afford it's care (have you seen all the people posting here whose dogs have SERIOUS health problems and they can't afford a vet)? What's wrong with wanting the children in the home to be old enough to not abuse the dog (toddlers do that, it's in their nature)? What's wrong with wanting to make sure the family is not going to be forced to give up their dog by a landlord (happens all the time)? Is it bad to want people to be educated in proper dog care?

And BTW, even without shelters there are a myriad of BYB bred puppies available ALL THE TIME. There is no need to add to the numbers.