Why do some non-beleivers claim they are the most intellectual people, yet do not know that Jesus did live?

Question

They claim that they have read and researched and have studied all of the religions in the world to come to justify their disbelief.

They are so determined to make the point that God is not real, that they would actually say that Jesus never lived.

You learn this in History class.

Where do you get your infomation.

For all who have said this, you are very misinformed!


***This is applies to some not all non-believers***

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Who said anything about Christianity?

I'm asking about Jesus living...

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Who said that I was taking a Christian stance?

A Muslim could say this?

Or a Jew could say this?

Please stick to the basis of this argument?

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Thanks Matt B! :-)

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Answer 1

They are really right. Belief of chrsitianity is most illogical and self contradicting. Chrsitianity is only concoctation

Answer 2

Nobody knows everything and Jesus did live he is part of history. People like to defend their own beliefs by ignoring the facts. The interesting thing about the bible is that all those people did exist and those events did happen; archaeological evidence has found this to be true. One example is when they found the remains of saddam and gomorra which were both destroyed by some form of great heat. If you go to Israel you can find that they have kept track of their history very well and still have the names and law records of the time. Moses did exist and The Jews did escape from slavery from the Pharoah. I think that some people think that history starts when there born, they are just ignorant to the past and that is why history tends to repeat itself by people making the same mistakes. And if they really studied all religions they would have known that if people lived more like Jesus there wouldn't be any war or suffering. I don't understand how people have a problem living like a good person because thats what Jesus taught. People that have a problem with christianity have a problem with good people.
Those People that say their is no evidence just are not looking, you are just supporting words that other non-believers have said. Religion was not the answer, Jesus never called it religion it is a way of life, we put the stamp religion on it. Jesus'message was that you can make it through the next phase of life through him with compassion as your guide. You have to stop thinking of it as religion and more as a way of life. Now i have no problem with other religions that offer the same message. If you believe in science then you know that matter is never created or destroyed only trasfered to other forms and that can explain life after death. And did you ever think that Jesus was not loved by his own country, the jewish community today don't believe Jesus is a God but if you go to Israel nobody will deny he existed, but maybe thats why many jewish people did not write about him because they are the ones that handed him over to Rome.

Answer 3

I never learned about that era in History class.

As for being misinformed... why don't you back this up with the info you think is out there. I would like to see it.... you know, historians that lived DURING Jesus' time and wrote about him. The 4 Gospels can not be taken, as a whole, as eyewitness accounts. Matthew starts off in the 3rd person (an eyewitness account does NOT write in the 3rd person). There are different things Jesus supposedly said when on the cross, dying.... yet before then it says they all fled, except John. They couldn't know what he said on the cross if they had fled. He was alone in the Garden, the rest of his group had fallen asleep. He was alone in the desert, no one went with him.

I get my information from History itself. As for believing whether or not he lived. I do believe he did live.... BUT! There isn't ANY info from his time to back that up! You can't say hundreds of people saw him, yet there is NOTHING to show that any of those things had ever occurred. I mean, come on, historians were all over the place, even in Israel. I can come up with writings about a lot of people, even more ancient than this, writings by friends and enemies of certain people.

You can't hand off a book and claim it is 100% and then get upset when people say they can't find evidence for it. You can't call us misinformed, when you offer nothing to prove us wrong.

I can sit and say "you're misinformed" all day... but I would look pretty stupid if I couldn't PROVE you're misinformed.

Answer 4

I don't recall studying the life of Jesus in history class. Nevertheless, I do believe he existed. I just don't believe he was a god.

All the same, given the amount of fabrication in the Bible, and given that organized religion is quite a handy tool with which to dominate the masses, I can understand why some people might question whether a prophet-teacher by the name of Jesus actually ever existed at all. Perhaps "Jesus" is merely an amalgam of several people. Or perhaps he was a simple man whose words and character have been grossly exaggerated. Even if you accept that someone named "Jesus" may have existed, it does not follow that he was necessarily the son of god, or that the words attributed to him in the Bible were truly his.

Answer 5

This is true for some. Some people don't really research anything they just say that to justify what they think. I do not belive in god but I also belive in Jesus even though he has not be proven to have lived besides though religion. I don't think he was the son of god on an account I don't belive in god but I do belive that Jesus was a good guy who just wanted to change the world for the better. Like a budda or a john lennon jim morrison kind of like them.

Answer 6

This is a good question. I studied Classical archaeology of the Mediterranean, among many other things.

The reason I suspect we don't know Jesus lived is because the only way he could've lived is if Christians have very carefully moved and removed the archaeological evidence and the literary evidence.

Augustus, for example, wrote about the finest details of stuff going on under him. If Jesus, as the bible says, had 50,000 in that whole Simon Zealots number, the only way it could've happened and we non-Christians wouldn't know it is if Christians have the evidence and are hiding it-if it was deleted and removed on purpose.

If you have the evidence, please turn it back over to the rest of the world and lay this to rest, thanks.

Answer 7

I suspect he probably did live, but seriously all you have to support it are some old ( not very credible ) books written by unknown authors well after the alleged facts and some ossuaries with similar names. I can certainly see why some people don't find that terribly convincing.

Its funny that the two things that I find that are most convincing that Jesus existed, are two you would likely reject, the ossuaries and some veiled references to Jesus's homosexuality which I doubt would have been made up.

Answer 8

Most of the miracle stories of Jesus are copied from the Book of Kings in the Old Testament. If he were real, this would not be necessary.

Many of the parables are plagiarized from Proverbs and stories from surrounding cultures.

Even more of the biographical stories are stolen from Egypt, Greece and surrounding areas.

Once you remove the sections of the Gospels that are plagiarized from other sources, you are left with so little that it's difficult to say whether there's anything left at all.

Answer 9

While I do believe that there was a religious teacher named Yeshua who founded Christianity, there is little to no evidence of such a person outside of the Bible. I can understand if some people do not accept this as sufficient evidence to believe that Jesus really existed.

Answer 10

There are no primary sources describing the existence of the person, Yshua bar-Ysef. Most of the secondary sources that reference him appear to have been altered in part, which unfortunately creates doubt in the entirety of the reference.

I think it's likely that a man Yshua bar-Ysef, son of a Ysef and Maria did exist, and was a teacher of philosophy and morality, and that he had a sizable following that after his death told his stories so much orally that they became much larger than the truth.

Answer 11

Intellectual people look for scientific proof before they make arguments or claims. This is why they do not believe that Jesus is the son of God. Unless you can prove it, he will be nothing more than a glorified Santa Clause.