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Without even considering that there is no evidence for any miracles, and that all of the Gospels were written by people born after the death of Jesus... Why were Jesus' miracles so flimsy and useless? They seem like David Blaine tricks and not the miracles of a deity coming to save humanity.

For example:

Jesus brought back a child to life... leaving all the other billions of innocents who had died to rot in their graves.

Jesus walked on water... when there was a boat right next to him.

Jesus turned water into wine... further dehydrating the people and encouraging public drunkenness.

Jesus turned a few loaves and fishes into many... feeding only a small group of people around him for that single meal, and ignoring the rest of the starving world. Hunger is a major problem in the world today.

Jesus cured a few lepers... and left us to deal with leprosy. Thankfully, scientists have discovered a cure where Jesus did not.

2007-03-21 03:49:23 · 22 answers · asked by Michael 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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David blaine , penn and teller and that other guy have taken after the Jesus and continue his tradition today

2007-03-21 03:52:32 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 4 1

ok, lets clear up your total missunderstandings & fault ridden logic.

1st, since when was bringing someone back to life a parlor trick? I dont think Blaine has done that one. He brought back a child to life who just recently died. Not been in the ground for years! The miracle was intended for those right there. Secondly, what would have happend if all over the world, people would just come back to life? & no one knows the source of it?

He walked OUT TO the boat. When he got there, he got in. Read the whole verse not just 3 words of it.

Water to wine: that was the miracle. He didnt say drink it all up & run the streets. Stop trying to read what is not there. That is the opposite problem of your walking on water question, you didnt read enough of that & you read too much into this one.

Feeding 5,000 people is no small task. Maybe you do it on a regular basis from a loaf & a fish. But most people cant do that, including David Blaine. Secondly, once again if you read it fully, you would see that they all ate & had enough to take home to feed others.

Curing leprocy. Again a miracle in & of itself. With no medication. Yes, scientists were able to unlock the mystery of soap & water.

You dont seem to be disputing the fact that they occured, but rather that anyone can do these things regularly. You seem to think for a miracle to be valid, it has to happen to everyone on earth. If that was the case, it would not be a miracle now, would it? It would be a parlor trick that anyone can do.

Nice try.

PS if you read the names of the authors of the gospels, you would see that they were there with Jesus.

2007-03-21 11:47:22 · answer #2 · answered by ricks 5 · 1 2

"Jesus brought back a child to life... leaving all the other billions of innocents who had died to rot in their graves."

this one is pure bull or the child was "asleep" or very sick and jesus gave him an herbal cure that worked or the nature of the death wasn't death at all but the child lost consiousness. If the latter is the case then I guess every ring doctor after a boxer or MMA fighter gets koe'd must be the "messiah".

"Jesus walked on water... when there was a boat right next to him."
Jesus walked on Ice, I can do him one better, I'll go ice skating in rockafeller center next december. Kneel before me puny mortals and despair!

"Jesus turned water into wine... further dehydrating the people and encouraging public drunkenness."

So did penn and teller. And as jesus was jewish I'm pretty sure it was mannachevitz wine which is pretty much just water with food coloring and artificial flavor added- doesn't take much to squeeze a few berries to change color.

"Jesus turned a few loaves and fishes into many... feeding only a small group of people around him for that single meal, and ignoring the rest of the starving world. Hunger is a major problem in the world today."

Yes yes yes, its called fishing. Fisherman do it every day, do we now give them robes (they are already unshaven) and pay homage to thier salty forms? ALL HAIL PETER GRIFFIN AND THE "SS: More powerfull than batman superman spiderman and the incredible hulk combined!"

"Jesus cured a few lepers... and left us to deal with leprosy. Thankfully, scientists have discovered a cure where Jesus did not."

No, jesus did not, he likely covered thier disease with a balm.
This one seems like an outright lie much like something from the lips of frank dux or aishida kim.
Remeber dux? the guy who "claimed" to be able to put his fist through bullet-proof glass? Oh wait one second, a former student and friend of Mr. ducks said it was a sham!

Hmm, I wonder if this was why judas gets a bad rap in the bible.

EDIT: besides, the "gospels of chuck" are far more impressive. Jesus' feats pale in comparison and importance with that of chuck.

1- while filming on the set, chuck came across a baby goat that had died. Chuck imidiately placed his hands on its head and brought it back to life. He held it up for the crowd to show them and then roundhouse kicked the goat's head off. His holy message was "what chuck giveth, chuck taketh away".

2- was jesus hung like a horse? NO, chuck is, wait wait wait- thats blasphemy, chuck is not hung like a horse, horses are hung like chuck!

2007-03-21 11:07:58 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

I agree with you, and I have always thought that they seemed a bit showy and pointless.....BUT, I think that they were meant to help people around him without helping the entire world. I am not sure (assuming that the miracles were true) that raising all the dead and feeding all the hungry is the answer. The fatc of life is that there is turmoil and trouble. Someone cannot just come and fix it all.




BRIAN- Parting the red sea was Moses, not Jesus....good try though.

2007-03-21 11:01:30 · answer #4 · answered by country_girl 6 · 2 1

Interesting

2007-03-21 10:53:10 · answer #5 · answered by Krayden 6 · 0 0

Legends of "miracle," in the absence of positive proof, are, of course, repugnant to common sense, and impress only the very lowest type of mentality. The miracles in the gospels are recorded in order to assure us of the authority of the message of the gospels - just as if I finished this answer by stating that I'd just raised my dead dog, and therefore you shall believe on what I have written.

2007-03-21 10:54:57 · answer #6 · answered by jonjon418 6 · 2 0

Here's my question back to you: How can you know?

Your only available original source material is the Gospels. The Gospel writers were absolutely convinced that these were bona fide miracles. Otherwise, they would not have written the Gospels and dropped everything to become Christians.

Anybody who wants to can carp that God didn't do things the way you'd do them if you were God. Jesus brought a child back to life, they say? Why didn't he heal two, you'd respond. If he healed two, well why not three? Why not every human who ever lived? Why does anyone have to die? Why should dogs and cats die?

However you ask your questions, you're bound to bump up against the ultimate questions about why God is the way He is. And the unavoidable answer is going to have to be, because He is who He is. "I am who am."

2007-03-21 10:52:24 · answer #7 · answered by Anne Marie 6 · 1 3

your information is incorrect and so are your assumptions. The gospels were written after the death of christ ,but not by people who were born after his death. But if this is the skewed way you wish to percieve it that is up to you. God is not a bad guy no matter how you try to make him seem that way. after all he is your father.

2007-03-21 11:45:53 · answer #8 · answered by swindled 7 · 0 1

The idea was to help the faithful god is a loving and wrath is his reward for non-followers.

So if someone goes to hell it is their own doing.

Also why would he reward people he were trying to kill his people? Your stating the son of God should have defeated Gods will and been the Anti-Christ or like P.T. Barnum a sucker born every minute.

2007-03-21 10:54:43 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

2 Peter 2:12 But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption, 13 and will receive the wages of unrighteousness, as those who count it pleasure to carouse in the daytime. They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you, 14 having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children.

2007-03-21 10:54:41 · answer #10 · answered by Suzanne: YPA 7 · 1 3

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