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The figure of 650,000 Iraqi deaths since the start of the war has been so freely bandied about like it is fact. But that means on average 445 Iraqi's would have to die every day for 4 years to reach that number.

So has anyone seen a report of that many people in Iraq dying in one day? I hear reports of 18 people one day, 50 here, maybe a little over a hundred an a particularly brutal day. But where are the 445 daily deaths? If the press isn't reporting them, are they ignoring it? Or maybe that number should be suspect to begin with.

2007-03-20 19:33:55 · 8 answers · asked by ? 6 in Politics & Government Military

I simply did the math. I divided 650,000 by 4 and got 162,500. Then I divided 162,500 by 365 sand got 445.205.

Then I started paying attention to the news to see if any of the death tolls came close to that number on a daily basis.

I'm still waiting.

2007-03-20 19:42:56 · update #1

I'm sorry, but who killed those children?

The insurgents?

So why is the US being vilified.

The purpose of our troops is to save lives, while the Insurgent try to kill as many people as they can.

I'm waiting for the outrage.

2007-03-20 19:45:09 · update #2

This was no lie (Saddam's Handiwork)

http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&q=halabjah&btnG=Search

2007-03-20 19:49:07 · update #3

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Far left fanatics shout that number as though it's a fact with no documentation to prove it. The reality, as documented by the United Nations, is that the Iraqi death toll is approximately 59,000.

The problem is that these far left "loons" spout this auspicious nonsense as though it's true and then turn a deaf ear whenever documentation refuting their claims is presented. The old adage "only the ignorant can blacken the sun" appears to go well in describing them. The sun being symbolic of light which is analogous of knowledge, this phrase means that only the ignorant will intentionally refuse truth and walk in "darkness".

2007-03-20 19:42:50 · answer #1 · answered by Airborne_Lt. 5 · 2 1

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2016-11-27 19:13:03 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

The media lives off of body counts. When they don't seem high enough, they make it up.

One bad sign, though...

Adamamiya had a car bomber that killed two children in the back seat of the vehicle. The bad guys know that if we see kids in the back seat, we usually wave them through.

The insurgents hate their children. That means this war will go on for a long time...

2007-03-20 19:42:43 · answer #3 · answered by ? 6 · 1 0

The press largely ignores Iraqi civillian deaths unless theres a real headline involved, like a suicide bomb. Most civillian deaths are due to poor security and civil strife.

2007-03-20 19:43:29 · answer #4 · answered by Melanie J 5 · 0 1

I think it's a lie personally made up by the media to sensationalize the anti-war stance!

2007-03-20 19:38:17 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Has anyone looked at the rubble of shock and awe killing by the USA? Saddam was doing the world a favor by keeping his country under control. Bush killed him and his sons out of revenge and petty spite; Bush is a war criminal.

W should be tried, disgraced and hung, made an example of as soon as possible.

2007-03-20 19:41:59 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

No one really knows as Gen Franks "We don't do body counts". would never provide the number.

The one you used is at the high end, though 2,500 were killed in the last month and if you multiply that times 4 years you get 57,600!

It's a shame when a government wont list those who died during their war!

Meanwhile insurgent attacks continue, despite the dispatch of more than 20,000 additional US troops. Insurgents are confronting the surge strategy head-on, killing civilians daily; over 2,500 civilians were killed in the past month, since the launch of the surge on 14 February, by insurgents, US troops, death squads, al-Qaeda and various unknown attackers.

Year Four: Simply the worst
Summary
On every available indicator the year just ended (March 2006 – March 2007) has been by far the worst year for violence against civilians in Iraq since the invasion:
almost half (44%) of all violent civilian deaths after the initial invasion phase occurred in the just-ended fourth year of the conflict
mortar attacks that kill civilians have quadrupled in the last year (from 73 to 289)
massive bomb blasts that kill more than 50 people have nearly doubled in the last year (from 9 to 17)
fatal suicide bombs, car bombs, and roadside bombing attacks have doubled in the last year (from 712 to 1476)
one in 160 of Baghdad’s 6.5 million population has been violently killed since the beginning of the war, representing 64% of deaths recorded so far
These are the stark headlines derived from Iraq Body Count’s ongoing compilation and analysis of media reports of civilian casualties in the Iraq conflict, which has documented 65,000 violent deaths to date.

Trends since 2003.Following the six week “Shock and Awe” invasion phase (March 19 - May 1, 2003), which alone caused the deaths of some 7,400 civilians, the violent death toll has steadily risen year-on-year. There were 6,332 reported civilian deaths in the 10.5 months following the initial invasion in year one, or 20 per day; 11,312 in year two, 55% up on year one’s daily rate; 14,910 in year three (32% up on year two); and a staggering 26,540 in year four (78% up on year three, and averaging 74 per day). Not counting the 7,400 invasion-phase deaths, four times as many people were killed in the last year as in the first. And from the invasion to the present, at least 110,000 civilians have been wounded, 38,000 of them during year four.


Trends in the last year.Even within the last year, there has been a marked upward trend in violence. This trend is reflected in IBC’s monthly figures, which peaked in July at nearly 3,000 and have since remained elevated at around 2,500 or higher throughout the second half of the year. These IBC trends are broadly in line with the Pentagon’s latest assessment of trends in the security situation (which however include attacks on US and Iraqi troops as well as civilians). In the data collected by the Pentagon most casualties were Iraqis, despite that 68% of the attacks targeted US-led coalition troops.


Bombings.Iraq has seen a particularly marked increase in mortar attacks, suicide car and roadside bombing attacks, and massive incidents that kill more than 50 people. In the last year there were seventeen such large bombing incidents - eight of them occurring in 2007, and the two most lethal ever (killing 137 and 120 civilians, respectively) occurred in the last 2 months.


Regional differences.Baghdad, the most populous region of the country, nonetheless continues to be one of its most pervasively violent, experiencing about five times more deaths per capita than the rest of the country. By the end of year four, approximately 1 in 160 of its residents had been violently killed - an impact on the population that approaches the effect on Fallujah after the two major US sieges of the city in 2004 (during which about 1 in 140 Fallujans were killed). Furthermore, by far the majority of casualties throughout the nation are among men, who are both the most frequently targeted and, since the invasion, the most exposed. The overall national breakdown of deaths shows that around a third of the civilian population (adult men) has borne about 90 % of deaths.


Morgue data, murders, assassinations and executions.One of the most horrific aspects of the targeting of Iraqi males is the growing number of post-capture executions, which often include torture and mutilation. As these bodies are discovered, often piled together, or washed up at river barriers, they are sent to the morgues (Medico-Legal Institutes) for investigation and potential identification.

The Baghdad MLI receives bodies found in the streets and outlying areas of Baghdad, as well as a number of unidentified bodies from bombings, which it photographs and tags to assist identification. Those that remain unidentified or unclaimed by relatives are sent for burial in mass graves in Najaf, Karbala and the outskirts of Baghdad.
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/press/pr15.phphttp://www.iraqbodycount.org/press/pr15.php

2007-03-20 20:12:37 · answer #7 · answered by cantcu 7 · 0 0

ha ha ha you always believe what you hear in the media

2007-03-21 01:56:56 · answer #8 · answered by military gal 2 · 0 0

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