can you give at least one teaching/doctrine of the pope (any pope) that is a fallacy?

Question

pope is a man too. he commits errors. but with regards to teachings and doctrines, he is infallible. so, do you have some proof that the pope is fallible?

i appreciate the answers of Kate S and Blessing..at least they wrote what they think are proofs of the pope's fallacy.

for the others..im not asking if the pope is infallible or not. you just re-written my details part of my question. pls read the question again if you really want to answer.

Answer 1

Hell, Purgatory, Mary worship, cross worship, icons, observing man made tradition instead of God's commandments, extortion, torture, trinity, immortal soul, praying to saints instead of God, infant baptism, tolerance of child molestation, indulgences, forbidding people to read God's Word, burning people who had a bible, blessing Hitler at the start of his campaign, mixing religion with politics...I can go on and on...

Answer 2

Pastor Billy says: excellent question and either the anti-catholics missed this or...........they've never received the prerecorded cut and paste script which forms section 2007 of their library to post here.

Many people paint a caricature of the Pope and the Church and never take the time to investigate what is claimed and implied. With regards to infallibility doctrine it is poorly understood hence the continual argument against it. I've never come across anyone wishing to attack the pope(s) teaching on faith and morals who could present a valid case of fallible instruction.

Re: the poster Blessing talking about indulgences, it was not that indulgences was a fallible teaching more correctly it was by not following the instructions of this doctrine correctly that error occurred. This person as issue with the abuse of the Church doctrine not the doctrine itself or the pope of the time.

Answer 3

I do not believe in infallibility, but there is a lot of misunderstanding about the doctrine. It does not mean that the pope is infallible all the time, but only when speaking "ex cathedra", which means from the chair, refering to the chair of peter. This has only happened a few times in history.

Answer 4

<< Is it real that there became a pope that should levitate? Do you think of that popes are infallible? >> The Pope is infallible while he makes an *ex cathedra* pronouncement on faith and morals. The Pope is infallable while he levitates. No Popes have been documented to have been infallable. St. Teresa of Avila became infallable while she levitated, even although. << if so what regarding the crusades? >> The Crusades weren't infallible, yet had there been any flying Crusaders, they could have been infallable. << Why do catholics say martin Luther became a heretic and is burning in hell while he merely proved them incorrect (On diverse stages)? >> Catholics say Martin Luther became a heretic because of fact he proclaimed ideals antithetical to those of the Church. Martin Luther became fallable because he in no way levitated, although he believed God had saved him from falling off his horse for the period of a lightning typhoon. No Catholic can say reliably that Luther or absolutely everyone else is in hell different than Judas Iscariot, yet Luther became not Judas Iscariot. (Luther became proved incorrect on ninety 5 stages). << maximum magnificent me if im incorrect, yet that's what i became advised by using a catholic instructor >> No, you're certainly maximum magnificent. that's what you have been advised by using a Catholic instructor.

Answer 5

Look up the Cadaveric Synod and the trial of Pope Formosus' corpse by the literally insane (and later murdered) Pope Stephen VII (896-97). Formosus' earthly remains were dug out of his grave, dressed in finery, and hoisted up onto the papal throne, where, tried by Stephen, said cadaver was condemned as an antipope by the teenaged pope Stephen, which is ex cathedra doctrine enough. All Formosus' acts were declared invalid, his corpse (which had sat on trial) was thrown into the river, and all clergy ordained during Formosus' five-year reign had to renounce their orders as invalid. Stephen's papal doctrines were later overwritten and he was pretty much whitewashed from history by historians in general.

Stephen VII is an exception, not a rule, but it's a pretty horrifying and fallacious story. All in all, the Catholic church has produced some amazing people amongst its clergy (I wrote a screenplay on St. Nicholas Owen), but Stephen was just nuts.

Answer 6

At the time of Martin Luther, the Catholic church was teaching that you could get to heaven by buying indulgences. These were 'free forgiveness' passes, allowing a person to be wicked, but because they had paid some money into the papal coffers, they would be forgiven. That teaching was very much at odds with the teaching of Jesus and the apostles.

Protestants tend to regard prayer to Mary as idolatrous at worse, or futile at best. She's just another believer, received now into Jesus' presence, and honoured a lot, but not able to receive millions of prayers each day ... God can do that but not humans or angels.

Answer 7

the greatest fallacy the pope teaches is that he works for god.... 2000 yrs ago men called themselves gods... usually people in high places like the Pharaohs of Egypt and the emperor of Rome.... the roman catholic religion is based on this type of godship...

Answer 8

This is how iamcatholic answered this question. I hope he/she does not mind if I reprint her answer.

When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." He said to him, "Feed my lambs." He then said to him a second time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." He said to him, "Tend my sheep." He said to him the third time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" Peter was distressed that he had said to him a third time, "Do you love me?" and he said to him, "Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you." (Jesus) said to him, "Feed my sheep. Matthew 16:17-19 states:Jesus said to him in reply, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

The Catholic Church believes the Lord made Simon alone, whom he named Peter, the "rock" of his Church. He gave him the keys of his Church and instituted him shepherd of the whole flock.The Pope is the senior pastor of 1.1 billion Catholics, the direct successor of Simon Peter.http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1s...+

Papal Infallibility +The Catholic Church teaches that the Pope is infallible at closely defined times.The Pope is only infallible when he, in union with the body of bishops, solemnly teaches that a doctrine as true.This comes from the words of Jesus to Peter (the first Pope) and the Apostles (the first bishops), "Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven" (Matthew 18:18) and "He who hears you hears me" (Luke 10:16).

At all other times the Pope can be just as wrong or sinful as you and me and be in need of forgiveness.

With love in Christ

Answer 9

He is infallible on maters of faith and morals. But the pope is wrong in not allowing women to be priests.

Answer 10

Peter was not the first Pope~