I am a devout Christian, however it is hard for me to put any being on par with the Father (Spirit of God). Could anyone please point out to me bibilical evidence that supports the trinity?
If you do not believe in God, that's great, however I don't really want that in this question. If you post about being an atheist or agnostic, I will just report your post, as that has nothing to do with my question.
2007-03-20 12:09:42 · 12 answers · asked by John 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Tertullian, one of the early church fathers, coined the term "Trinity." The word actually means "three-ness." Tertullian was an ardent supporter of orthodoxy in the church, and was one of the greatest defenders of the historic Christian faith.
The term "Trinity" is not found in the Scriptures, but the doctrine is clearly displayed. There are many times where Jesus said of Himself that He was God. He applied the name of God, "I AM," to Himself in several passages. Here's a few examples: Matthew 14:27, Mark 6:50, Mark 13:6, Luke 21:8, John 4:26, John 6:20, John 8:24, 28, 58, and John 13:19. (These listed are in the Greek, as opposed to English, since many English translations use "I am He," or "It is I," instead)
There are several other passages that I didn't list. Besides this, Jesus said that He & the Father were one (John 10:30). This describes a unity, even though there are two.
The Trinity has an underlying appearance in the Old Testament as well. In Genesis, we see during creation that God said, "Let us make man in our image." and also when man sinned, God said, "...man has become as one of us, to know good and evil..." Who was He speaking to? The other persons of the Trinity. We also see that the Spirit of God hovered over the waters in the beginning, and in John 1:1-3, it clearly states that Jesus (the Word) made everything.
Another angle to pursue is the various Scriptures that demonstrate that God's attributes are present in Jesus as well as the Holy Spirit. For example, the Father is eternal (Psalm 90:2), and so is the Son (John 1:2), and so is the Holy Spirit (Hebrews 9:14). Another shared attribute is their holiness. Only God is truly holy. The Father is holy (Revelation 15:4), so is the Son (Acts 3:14), and so is the Spirit (Acts 1:8).
An ancient diagram of the Trinity can be helpful in getting your hands around the doctrine, and can be found at the link in the SOURCE list.
The Trinitarian doctrine requires much more depth of discussion than can occur here. It is important to know that we only have to believe, not necessarily understand, the Trinitarian nature of God. It is a bedrock doctrine of the Christian church. Anything else is heresy.
2007-03-20 12:18:37 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 6⤋
Here is the correct answer.......
John 1:1 The Word was in the beginning, and the Word was 2) with God, and the Word was a god.
The New Testament in An Improved Version upon the Basis of Archbishop Newcome’s New Translation; With a Corrected Text, London (1808)
John 1:1 In a beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the God, and a god was with the Word.
The Emphatic Diaglott (J21,interlinear reading), by
Benjamin Wilson, New York and
London. 1864
John 1:1 In the beginning the Word existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was divine.
The Complete Bible; An American Translation by J.M.Powers Smith, Edgar J. Goodspeed Chicago 1935
John 1:1 In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.
New World Translation Revised 1984
1975 “and a god (or, of a divine kind) was the Word” Das Evangelium nach
Johannes, by Siegfried Schulz,Göttingen, Germany.
1978 “and godlike sort was the Logos” Das Evangelium nach
Johannes,by Johannes Schneider,Berlin.
1979 “and a god was the Logos” Das Evangelium nach
Johannes,by Jürgen Becker, Würzburg, Germany.
These translations use such words as “a god,” “divine” or “godlike” because the Greek word θεός (the·os′) is a singular predicate noun occurring before the verb and is not preceded by the definite article. This is an anarthrous the·os′. The God with whom the Word, or Logos, was originally is designated here by the Greek expression ὁ θεός, that is, the·os′ preceded by the definite article ho. This is an articular the·os′. Careful translators recognize that the articular construction of the noun points to an identity, a personality, whereas a singular anarthrous predicate noun preceding the verb points to a quality about someone.
2 Corinthians 1:3 “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of tender mercies and the God of all comfort,”
Jesus Praying
Mark chapter 14:32-36
32 So they came to a spot named Geth·sem′a·ne, and he said to his disciples: “Sit down here while I pray.” 33 And he took Peter and James and John along with him, and he started to be stunned and to be sorely troubled. 34 And he said to them: “My soul is deeply grieved, even to death. Stay here and keep on the watch.” 35 And going a little way forward he proceeded to fall on the ground and began praying that, if it were possible, the hour might pass away from him. 36 And he went on to say: “Abba, Father, all things are possible to you; remove this cup from me. Yet not what I want, but what you want.”
Do you not know that the oldest Coptic Koine Greek manuscript of John 1:1 was unearthed not that long ago. This Coptic version is the only one to be directly translated from Koine Greek. Interesting isn't it?
What Coptic John 1:1 says is:
ϩΝ ΤЄϩΟΥЄΙΤЄ ΝЄϤϢΟΟΠ ΝϬΙΠϢΑϪЄ.
ΑΥШ ΠϢΑϪЄ ΝЄϤϢΟΟΠ ΝΝΑϩΡΜ ΠΝΟΥΤЄ.
ΑΥШ ΝЄΥΝΟΥΤЄ ΠЄ ΠϢΑϪЄ
Literally, that says:
In the beginning was the Word
And the Word was with the God
And a god was the Word
Notice.......the Word was "A" god.
(2 Corinthians 1:3) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of tender mercies and the God of all comfort,
Yes, blessed be Jehovah.
2015-01-27 03:09:28 · answer #2 · answered by Johnny 6 · 3⤊ 2⤋
No. Those who think God is a trinity, think the Bible supports. But if you look at their scriptural "proofs," NOT ONE verse says that God is composed of 3 co-equal, co-eternal persons which is the definition of the trinity. Let's look at some of those "proofs."
I borrowed these from Lord Sea.
Genesis 1:26 "Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness..."
Do you see a God made up of 3 co-equal persons here? No!
John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning."
Do you see a God composed of 3 persons here? It says the Word and God. That's only 2 persons. Where's the 3rd person that you need to make up a trinity? Not there!
John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."
Do you see a trinity here? No. It's only speaking of 2 persons--Jesus and the Father. No trinity here either.
John 14:9-11 "Jesus answered: 'Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves."
How many persons do you see here. TWO--Jesus and his Father. Where is person number THREE to complete the trinity? Nowhere in sight.
Trinity believers have been so brainwashed, that they see a trinity in scriptures that only show one or 2 persons. They have been taught a falsehood.
2007-03-20 13:27:46 · answer #3 · answered by LineDancer 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You will not find the word Trinity in the Bible. You will not even find anything that is really directly pointing to the trinity.
But theologians use what is called typology to understand the Bible. This means that they read the Old Testament in light of the New Testament and the New Testament in light of the Old. They use an understanding of things told in the Old Testament to understand God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
The Trinity is a concept that we've come to believe in studying the Bible as a whole, not just reading a verse here and there.
Here are some links to help with the understanding of the trinity.
http://www.christring.org/shortseries/trinity.htm
http://www.christian-apologetics.org/html/The_Trinity.htm
2007-03-20 12:21:15 · answer #4 · answered by Misty 7 · 1⤊ 3⤋
Genesis 1:26 "Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness..."
John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning."
John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."
John 15:26 "When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me."
John 14:9-11 "Jesus answered: 'Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves."
2007-03-20 12:26:40 · answer #5 · answered by Lord Sean 1 · 0⤊ 3⤋
It sounds like you should study Islam..I'm Muslim, and I've known a few Christians who started to study Islam after they could not understand or accept the idea of the Trinity.
God is not 3, nor is He in a Trinity. The first Commandment given to Moses was "Thou shall have no other gods before Me".
There is only One God.
Study what Muslims believe in the short page below.
2007-03-20 12:34:18 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
God in heaven sent Jesus to earth, to us. When Jesus died on the cross for our sins, He resurrected back to heaven to be with God, His Father. Jesus' Holy Spirit is now with us.
The trinity is God the Father (in heaven), God the Son (Jesus)(John 3:16) and the Holy Spirit. Three in one.
2007-03-20 12:36:57 · answer #7 · answered by mbrxmta 1 · 0⤊ 3⤋
No. God is one.
"I and my father are ONE" John 10:30
"Three Bear Recored in heaven- the father, the son, and the holy ghost, and these three are one." 1John 5:7
"in the beginging was the word and the word was with God and the WORD WAS GOD." John 1:1
"Word was made flesh and dwelt among us." John 1:14
"If ye belive not that i am he, Ye shall Die in your sins" John 8:24
2007-03-20 12:14:58 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 4⤋
The Bible never says anything about a trinity and it never says anything about Heavenly Father and His Only Begotten Son being one person. They are on in purpose and action.
Did God sit on the right hand of Himself? No.
Did God so love the world he gave Himself? No. He gave His Only Begotten Son(which is harder, if you're a parent)
Does Jesus pray to Himself? No. He prays to His Father.
The trinity was voted on by the Catholic church in the Nicene council. It's false doctrine.
2007-03-20 12:17:40 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 2⤋
I always read Chapter 1 of the gospel of John which puts Him back into perspective when I may be tempted with doubts.
2007-03-20 12:14:59 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 4⤋