Is the U.S. on a losing streak in terms of Wars with countries?

Question

The Korean was really a draw but we were pushed back by when the Chinese decided to help the North Korea. So it's a lose isn't it? And then Vietnam, another lose. Now Iraq? What do you think?

Answer 1

Evidently, there are still a lot of arrogant, ignorant, war-hungry Americans still around who take pride in wars & genocide, and "never losing". And they consider themselves the best "human beings" on the planet living in the "best country in the world".

The US spends 50% of its budget (talk about BIG government), that's about $400+ billion dollars annually on "defense" (attack, really), even during "peace" time (the US hasn't been truly at peace since WW2). This $400 billion = 8X the next biggest spender (China), and about 40X the combined spending of US potential "enemy" states (Iran, Syria, N Korea, etc.) .

With all that $$$, training, & the hi-tech equipment, the US military + many Americans believe it can win every war it engages in. The military needs to test its new toys, soldiers need real life combat experience in order to maintain "combat readiness", and defense companies need their weapons to be used so they can sell new ones. So after WW2, the US has been engaged in nearly perpetual war for the past 60+ years.

The US picks on little countries like Grenada, Panama, Haiti, etc and gets an ego boost... but then when it operates in a larger zone of control against guerrilla fighters with home-court advantage (Vietnam, Iraq), it gets bogged down. Evidently, the US never learned the lessons from its own American Revolution.... namely, that it's difficult to beat people fighting for their homes & their own way of life. To them, they are the patriots, and we are the invading terrorist imperialists.

As long as we Americans can't see the world from others' points of view, we will be sucked into more wars, and more defeats.

We have over 7,000 active nuclear weapons in our arsenal, and over 700+ overseas military bases in 130 countries worldwide. We are developing Theater Missile Defense systems & space-based weapons. If any other country were in the same situation, we'd be calling them Imperialists bent on World Domination, and a threat to National Security.

For the sake of world peace, I sure as hell hope we lose. We deserve to get our a**es kicked.... it might just beat some sense & humility into us.

The fact that most Americans believe we have 700 military bases & the world's biggest defense industry is to support Peace, Democracy, Freedom, and Tolerance, testifies that they are living in a naive, fairy tale, Matrix-like dream world.

Answer 2

If you ask the south korean we won that war....their economy is doing very well (just look at poor broke down N Korea)

I feel that our civilians at home (and some sitting on Vietnamese tanks) cost us Vietnam. The media was against the war and subverted the military.

We can see some of the same today in Iraq. But we are not losing that war....obviously you haven't beent there. You shouldn't lap up the semi-fact that is broadcast on the drive-by, tragedy driven liberal media. We beat the Iraqi army in a matter of weeks, we are now pushing to get the country stable enough to provide its own protection - and barring the liberals taking the rug out from under us we sill succeed

This country lost its b@lls. It has no stomach, no heart to sacrifice anymore. Most people speak of the last 6 years of hell - please elaborate as to what hell you have endured

Answer 3

No, I don't think it's really so much of a losing streak as the fact that the definition of "victory" has changed over the years.

During World War II, the definition was quite simple. Total victory meant the unconditional surrender of our enemies.

Nowadays, we're expected to quell uprisings in the country for years past our initial military victory. We don't just have to win the war on the battlefield, but keep the peace for who knows how long afterwards. And if public sentiment turns sour back home, then it's considered a "lost war" even when the facts and figures on the ground say otherwise (ahem, Vietnam).

So we're not on a losing streak. Just the world is changing and so is the definition of the victory.

Answer 4

The last time America went to war was in 1941. The Korean conflict was sold to us as a United Nations police action.

Vietnam was an attempt to help the Roman Catholic Church retain its power base in South East Asia when it became evident that the French couldn't hold on.

The pretense that Vietnam consisted of two states was invented by the US State Department to try to justify intervention of behalf of the Catholic-dominated Saigon regime.

The promised free elections were prevented when it became obvious that the Vietnamese people, given the chance, would vote overwhelmingly for their national hero, Ho Chi Minh, who had successfully repelled earlier attempted foreign domination by the Chinese, French, Japanese, and French again.

Now it's Iraq. You're not supposed to notice that Saddam was the strongest opponent Osama Bin Laden ever had.

Now open your mouth like a guppy in a fishbowl and swallow what you are told, such as the claim that there is a "war on terror," no matter that "terror" is not a country or an enemy; it is an emotion and you personally are responsible for the emotions you choose to hold.

But oh well, don't think, don't ask questions, just fight this "war on terror" like its famous predecessors the "war on poverty" and "war on drugs", which were oh so spectacularly successful. Right. Trust your fearless leader, the Decider.

Answer 5

How do you figure Korea was a lose? The Chinese and the Koreans over run 90% of the country when they invaded and we took it back with a daring end run and shoved them back to what it is today! You lose! How do figure Vietnam? (was there), we lost 58,000 to some several million North Vietnamese, even with our hands tied in useless ROE's put on us by the demorcat administratioin (Johnson) and we still kicked ther butt, are you taking about "cut and run" like the Dems wat us to do now, even though Iraq is a success, especially militarily! Yeah again we kicked their butt, disposed the ruler and the Iraqi people elected their own... what's so loser about that. You sure hjave a convaluted way of thinking! Oh thats right you weren't! Get off the kool-aide dude!

Answer 6

The US looses because the American citizenry tires of the war quickly and politicians in Washington always think they know more than the Generals. You cannot win a war if you try and micromanage from 6000 miles away. Perfect example is Johnson and McNamara and Bush and Rumsfeld.
The war is a political football of power politics. The North Koreans and North Vietnamese went into a war united. The Americans go into a war divided between Republican and Democrats.

Answer 7

The United States has defeated nearly every country in a conventional war but it has not prepared well for unconventional warfare with battle hardened guerrillas. The military failed to learn the lessons of the Vietnam War where a lot of the battles were fought through sudden ambushes, hit and run attacks. etc. The military power of the US is not doubted at all as other countries lack the major kill, projection power. The US can deploy soldiers to any part of the world easily unlike other countries.

Answer 8

We have won most of the wars that we have entered you moron! The Revolutionary War, The War with the Barbary Pirates, The Mexican War, The Civil War, The Spanish American War, WW1, WW2, The First Gulf War, and The Second Gulf War. What is happening in Iraq is not a war, it is an occupation, and we will probably have to leave within a few years, but we did kick Saddam Husseins but.

Answer 9

The U.S. soldiers are in to stabalize Iraq long enough till the Iraqis tropps and police come on line. There is over 500,000 trained Iraqis and te Iraqi president said they would be ready by June 2007 to take over all Iraqi security. Secretary of Defense Gates said that it's possible to start leaving near the end of this year. I think it can be done before May 2008.

The U.S. did fairly well in Grenada, Panama and the Phillipines in the 1980s.

Answer 10

Didn't you ask this the other day?

Korea = UN control, no real winner

Vietnam = peace treaty negotiated and we left, no real winner except that the north later violated the peace treaty and invaded the south.

Iraq, war won in a few weeks. Peace is taking a bit.