why do christians think that without god, u obtain the right to murder, rape and steal?

Question

do u need a god to tell u those are wrong? how stupid is that claim?

i saw many christians admit in another question that if god was proven false they would have no problem dropping morality and steal murder and rape.

perhaps its a bad idea to disprove this religion? lotta psychos in it.

Answer 1

Apparently yes, many would have NO idea that murder, rape and theft is wrong if their deity hadn't told them so. And what's more, many wouldn't feel compelled not to murder, rape and steal if their "supernatural authority" hadn't imposed sanctions on those behaviors.

Answer 2

Its more a question of why do we inherently feel that murder, rape and stealing are wrong? Why is it that we as people and as a society feel that these things are wrong? There is something inside us that tells us that we need to respect each other and treat each other well.

It could be claimed that it is just a survival instinct that we still retain...by killing each other we would reduce the success of our species. But soldiers kill people to protect their local species.

So I think the statement that you refer to is implying that we do all have God already and that is why we have these values. The love for your fellow humans is within you. So God isn't telling you those things are wrong...God is already inside you and that is why you know those things are wrong.

In those other conversations, you could just as easily make the point that morality proves that there is a God because the same morality exists in those that don't believe in God. So if there are many people that don't believe in God, why aren't they all out killing people?

I believe there is a great book discussing this - Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis (of Narnia fame)

Answer 3

There are a lot of religious people who have no morals anyway. Just look at the number of serial killers who claimed they were good christians? How many of them used religion as an excuse for their acts by saying they were doing gods work? Go through history and you will find many atrocities committed in the name of religion. If anyone has the moral high ground it is atheists. Simply because we are good out of choice rather than fear.

Atheism. You know it makes sense.

Answer 4

It is human nature, not Christian nature to be inherently bad. Humans have to work to be good, decent, productive members of society. It is easy for anyone to be sorry. It takes no effort what so ever to choose to be a burden rather than a contributing member. I think that what those people may have been saying is that as people are by nature not good then if they didn't have some sort of moral compass such as their Christian beliefs then they too might see themselves, due to a lack of conscience, committing crimes such as rape, murder and theft.

Answer 5

There probably is a small sanction of people who feel the way you have described, but not everyone feels that way. There are many Christians who would live a good life if God did not exist because they are happy leading a good life. By the way, since God does exist then living the good life is so much the better because there are eternal blessings by living so.

Answer 6

"Both the believer and the unbeliever will want to insist that certain things are evil, for instance cases of child abuse (like those already mentioned). And they will talk as though they take such moral judgments seriously, not simply as expressions of personal taste, preference or subjective opinion. They will insist that such things are truly -- objectively, intrinsically -- evil. Even unbelievers can be shaken from their easy and glib espousals of relativism in the face of moral atrocities like war, rape, and torture.

But the question, logically speaking, is how the unbeliever can make sense of taking evil seriously -- not simply as something inconvenient, or unpleasant, or contrary to his or her desires. What philosophy of value or morality can the unbeliever offer which will render it meaningful to condemn some atrocity as objectively evil? The moral indignation which is expressed by unbelievers when they encounter the wicked things which transpire in this world does not comport with the theories of ethics which unbelievers espouse, theories which prove to be arbitrary or subjective or merely utilitarian or relativistic in character. On the unbeliever's worldview, there is no good reason for saying that anything is evil in nature, but only by personal choice or feeling."

Answer 7

Nonsense.

God has written His moral law into our hearts. So we know what is right and wrong. We accept Him as a Savior because we know that we cannot meet His standard of moral no matter how hard we try.

Answer 8

I believe morality is sociallt imposed and personally chosen.

I do not believe, at all, that morality is grounded in religion.

I am not moral because I am a Christian, nor am I a Christian
because I am moral. They compliment one another, but do not go hand in hand.

Answer 9

Apes have compassion for other apes, and sometimes even little kittens. Morals are a product of evolution and the development of social interations.

Answer 10

1) God can't be proven false.
2) not all Christians think that (I don't)
3) don't knock it till you try it!
4) try reading the Bible