Can some Christians please explain how atheism violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics?

Question

Since I'm taking a graduate-level class in thermodynamics, I should really explain it to my professor.

Answer 1

They don't understand a closed system verses and open system. That is all.

Answer 2

Well, I'm no science major, but I'll take a stab at it. According to Wikipedia the Second Law of Thermodynamics, "In simple terms, it is an expression of the fact that over time, differences in temperature, pressure, and density tend to even out in a physical system which is isolated from the outside world. Entropy is a measure of how far along this evening-out process has progressed."
What I'm understanding from this (and please correct me if I'm wrong here) is that given time, seperated bodies (let's say the sun and the earth) will either gain or lose heat and eventually even out or become about the same temperature. Is that right (as well as pressure and density)?

Now atheists obviously don't except that there is a God.

Where these to come in to play is:

1. How on earth could the earth and the sun (or any of the other stars and planets) not be the same temperature (pressure or density) by now if the Second Law of Thermodynamics is true (aside from the obvious that the sun is a giant burning ball of gas and the earth isn't), apart from a "higher being" keeping the earth a lot cooler to protect its inhabitants.

2. If God is in fact keeping this balance (see Colossians 1:15-17) then how can their be atheists? Can they not see that someone is holding this universe together?

Hope that helps.

Answer 3

Not atheism, but evolution violates the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. Although many people think that the two can be mutually exclusive, but I don't.
In layman's terms, the second Law of Thermodynamics states that everything wears down; entropy always increases. Everything is falling toward a state of disorder. Nothing ever gets "in order" all by itself. Almost everyone on earth is employed because of the SLOT. We must constantly build new things because the old things are wearing out. Our bodies age, so we need doctors to help with the upkeep. Evolutionists believe that all that is needed to produce order is energy, but this is a fallacy. They believe that if a bicycle comes in pieces in a box, you only need energy to assemble the bicycle. This is wrong. What is required to assemble the bicycle is ENERGY + INTELLIGENT INPUT. You can add all the energy you want to the bicycle, but unless you read the directions, and consciously direct the movements of your hands and tools, the bicycle will not get built.
Another example would be this experiment (do not try this at home!):
Put a frog in a blender and turn it on. Here you have all the necessary ingredients to make a frog. Now put some electrodes into the goo and give it all the energy you want. Heck, give it all the time you want, too. How long will it take to reassemble the frog? You see, it took INTELLIGENCE to assemble the frog in the first place!
Going from disorder to order is impossible without BOTH energy + intelligent input.

Answer 4

Second Law of Thermodynamics

If the entire universe is an isolated system, then, according to the second law of thermodynamics, the energy in the universe available for useful work has always been decreasing. However, as one goes back in time, the energy available for useful work would eventually exceed the total energy in the universe, which, according to the first law of thermodynamics, remains constant. This is an impossible condition, implying the universe had a beginning.

A further consequence of the second law is that when the universe began, it was more organized and complex than it is today—not in a highly disorganized and random state as assumed by evolutionists and proponents of the big bang theory.

Evolutionists would have us believe that the universe has always been and will remain the same. If it had a beginning, then there had to be a first cause to bring it into existence.

Answer 5

Wow. I never knew "evolutionists" and atheists believe that it simply takes energy to construct a bicycle in parts. We 'don't know' that to do it we need to read the instructions and get to work with our hands. In fact, I usually hear the same argument against religious folk. They 'believe' something is waiting to lift them up from their fear of death, that rather than enjoy the life we KNOW we have here, we should all think about how fun and wonderful the after-life will be.

Sheesh.

Sorry, Squirrel, I hardly understand thermodynamics at all, to be honest. I can tell you that it's ALL science though.

Answer 6

You are flawed in your supposition that by twisting the 2nd law of thermodynamics you can prove or disprove the existence of a God to your atheist professor. Also why is it that people cannot accept the fact that try as we might, our society loves to impose order and symmetry to the universe and those with a limited understanding of thermodynamics thinks it on the surface untrue. Yet it is dealing with energy on the quantum level and is entirely true that try as we might to conserve, recycle, and invent ways to escape heat decay we only hasten it.

If anything you can wow your professor by linking the second law with Nietzsche and you being a graduate level theorist should have no problems linking both together along with WWII to asail Christianity.

and don't forget kiddies to support your fearless leader and king George W. Bush. Hallowed be thy name.

Answer 7

Atheists don't believe in thermodynamics?

Okay, atheism doesn't violate the law, evolution theory runs counter to the law...

Answer 8

The 2nd law of Thermodynamics states, simplistically, that without any outside force all objects left to themselves in a natural state are prone to go from order to chaos... in other words, left to themselves things decay.

If this is a "law"; not a theory or hypothesis, then how have things gone from chaos to order in our world? A theist believes that the outside force is intelligent design or rather God's creating the world.

Answer 9

The UNIVERSE is a closed system. That means the universal laws of chance cannot combine to run things 'up'. Things have to run down. But they don't. That means SOMETHING has to be increasing the level of information in the universe. Something like an intelligence that exists beyond space and time. Is this beginning to sound familiar?

Answer 10

I've never heard that before. The only argument I have heard is that the universe could not have existed from the infinite past because the 2nd law of thermo. would imply that there would be no "availability" left and that the universe would have already descended to utter chaos.

Answer 11

I have no clue what law you're talking about...
Don't even know what thermodynamics are...

Insignificant information as pertaining to the eternal kingdom in my mind.