Jews... why do you not beleive that Jesus is the Messiah. Surely you do beleive that Messiah was coming...?

Question

What discredit Jesus for being Him.

You don't discredit that Jesus lived... but you say that He was just a man.

He did have all of the charachteristics (his lineage, his native)prophecied in the Old Testament... didn't he?

What are your thoughts?

I appreciate all of your answers, I was hoping that you guys would give me some text taht 'proves' according to your beliefs why He is not.

The argument that Mary was not a virgin... is a matter of belief, not factual information.

What does your faith tell you about why Jesus is not the Messiah?

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Jewish Girl: I believe all this and I am a Christian... this is what makes me believe more... the scriptures that you provided.

Answer 1

Ok, one thing, the Jewish people believe that Jesus was merely a prophet. They wondered why he didnt establish a kingdom on earth...Jesus said that he is going away to prepare a place...So the Jewish people didnt believe that.....Now, if there is a false prophet, say,that the Antichrist comes in and says that he is the Messiah and does miracles, then he will set up a false kingdom on earth.....So, alot of people will believe that he is the Messiah..... Complicated, i know, but the Jewish not believing in Jesus as their Savior, leaves this gap wide open for a false prophet to come in and claim to be God..

Answer 2

The messiah is yet to come... I actually do not fully buy any of the story of the NT, or even the definite existence of jesus, and definitely not as a virgin born god child... The OT has many prophecies, and many that were fulfilled.. most of the ones people link to jesus were fulfilled before he even supposedly showed up on the scene, and had nothing to do with a messiah at all. This is the short version of my thoughts on the subject.


And yeah, it seems that there are more jesusians answering this question than Jews, for some reason.. I love how people think that they can just make up rules in Judaism to prove their points... jesus is NOT A PROPHET IN JUDAISM!! That is ISLAM. In judaism, if he existed, he was a person who was horribly misrepresented in later generations, but most likely he was a fictional character who was given aspects of several gods of the time, and sold as a new religion to many peoples... All of which have nothing to do with Judaism.

Answer 3

Of the three 'Abrahamic' faiths/religions, we in the frequently Christian West are the in undemanding words ones who have self assurance that Jesus Christ replaced into the son of God. The Jews have self assurance that he replaced right into a sturdy, God-inspired guy yet no longer unavoidably the Messiah envisioned of their ealier holy texts. In Islam, he's honored as a Prophet of God, between the major ones, who easily presented a divine e book/revelation. certainly, previous to the 4th century A.D, many Christian church homes also didnt have self assurance in the divinity of Jesus. Even at present, in the middle East, you've Christian sects which firmly have self assurance that Jesus replaced right into a prophet, a divine messenger and instructor, no more beneficial. None of this detracts from the actual undeniable actuality that he continues to be between the fantastic, maximum effective figures in human historic previous.

Answer 4

Yes, good question. Why? Probably for the same reason as atheists: they do not want a messiah. People want to live their life as they wish. They don't want anybody telling them that their life is not in order.

Jews also failed to see what the messiah really was. They failed to see that He was not coming to be King and establish Jerusalem as a great nation. They didn't understand that He came to save mankind from sin. They didn't realize that prophecies on the new Jerusalem in the OT refer to the afterlife. They are still waiting for a Messiah that will come and rule the earth as a king in Jerusalem.

Answer 5

He fulfilled all the old Test. Prophecies; you'd have to ignore alot to say He was not the messiah...

However, some people are not moved by the evidence.

Many unbelivers choose to ignore facts and rather choose to believe what they WANT to believe ....in spite of what the truth is.

Answer 6

here is a list of some of the messianic passages out of the mouths of the prophets. this list is not complete, there are countless more, but this is just a good overview. you will be able to clearly see after reading it why we don't believe jesus is the messiah.

1. THE MESSIAH WILL BRING UNIVERSAL KNOWLEDGE OF G-D.

Jeremiah 31:33 - "And no longer shall one teach his neighbour or his brother, saying: "Know the Lord," for they shall know me from their smallest to their greatest, says the Lord."

Zechariah 8:23 - "And the Lord shall become King over all the earth; on that day shall the Lord be one, and His name one."

2. THE MESSIAH WILL BRING ALL THE JEWS BACK TO ISRAEL.

Isaiah 43:5 - "From the east I will bring your seed, and from the west I will gather you. I will say to the north, "Give," and to the south, "Do not refrain"; bring My sons from afar and My daughters from the end of the earth."

Isaiah 11:12 - "And he shall raise a banner to the nations, and he shall gather the lost of Israel, and the scattered ones of Judah he shall gather from the four corners of the earth."

Isaiah 27:12 - "And it shall come to pass on that day, that the Lord shall gather from the flood of the river to the stream of Egypt, and you shall be gather one by one, O children of Israel. And it shall come to pass on that day, that a great shofar will be sounded, and those lost in the land of Assyria and those exiled in the land of Egypt shall come and they shall prostrate themselves before the Lord on the holy mount in Jerusalem."

3. THE MESSIAH WILL BRING WORLD PEACE AND ALL WARFARE WILL CEASE.

Isaiah 11:6 - "And wolf shall live with a lamb, and a leopard shall lie with a kid; and a calf and a lion cub and a fatling shall lie together, and a small child shall lead them."

Micah 4:3 - "And he shall judge between many peoples and reprove mighty nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation; neither shall they learn war anymore."

4. ALL WEAPONS WILL BE DESTROYED.

Ezekiel 39:9 - "The inhabitants of the cities of Israel will go forth and make fires and heat up with the weapons, the bucklers, and the encompassing shields, the bows and the arrows and the handstaves and the spears, and they shall burn them as fires for seven years."

5. THE TEMPLE WILL BE REBUILT.

Ezekiel 37:36 - "And I will form a covenant of peace for them, an everlasting covenant shall be with them; and I will establish them and I will multiply them, and I will place My Sanctuary in their midst forever."

Micah 4:1 - "And it shall be at the end of days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be firmly established at the top of the mountains, and it shall be raised upon the hills, and peoples shall stream upon it."

6. HE WILL CURE ALL THE SICKLY AND DISABLED.

Isaiah 35:5 - "Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped. Then the lame shall skip like a hart, and the tongue of the mute shall sing, for water has broken out in the desert and streams in the plain."

7. HE WILL BE PRECEEDED BY THE PROPHET ELIJAH.

Malachi 3:23 (4:4 in KJV) - "Lo, I will send you the prophet Elijah before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord."

8. THE NATIONS WILL HELP THE JEWS.

Isaiah 60:5 - "Then you shall see and be radiant, and your heart shall be startled and become enlarged, for the abundance of the west will be turned over to you, the wealth of the nations will come to you."

Isaiah 60:10 - "And foreigners will build your walls, and their kings shall serve you, for in My wrath I struck you and in My grace have I had mercy on you."

9. ETERNAL JOY AND GLADNESS WILL CHARACTERIZE THE JEWISH NATION.

Isaiah 51:11 - "And the redeemed of the Lord shall return, and the will come to Zion with song and with everlasting joy on their heads; gladness and joy shall overtake them; sorrow and sighing shall flee.

10. TREES IN ISRAEL WILL YIELD FRUIT EVERY MONTH.

Ezekiel 47:12 - "But the stream, on its bank from either side, will grow every tree for food; its lead will not wither, neither will its fruit end; month after month its fruits will ripen, for its waters will emanate from the Sanctuary, and its fruit shall be for food and its leaves for a cure."

11. DEATH WILL CEASE.

Isaiah 25:8 - "He has concealed death forever, and the Lord God shall wipe the tears off every face, and the shame of his people he shall remove from upon the earth, for the Lord has spoken."

12. THE DEAD WILL BE RESURRECTED.

Isaiah 26:19 - "May Your dead live, 'My corpses shall rise; awaken and sing, you who dwell in the dust, for a dew of lights is your dew, and to the earth You shall cast the slackers."

Ezekiel 37:13 - "Therefore, prophecy and say unto them, So says the Lord God: Lo! I open your graves and cause you to come up from your graves as My people, and bring you home to the land of Israel. Then you shall know that I am the Lord, when I open your graves and lead you up out of your graves as My people. And I will put My spirit into you, and you shall live, and I will set you on your land, and you shall know that I, the Lord, have spoken it and have performed it, says the Lord."

13. THE MESSIAH WILL NOT FAIL. HE WILL DO IT THE FIRST TIME AROUND.

Isaiah 42:4 - "Neither shall he weaken, nor shall he be broken."

EDIT

you believe he was the messiah because he did NOT fulfill any of the messianic prophecies? there's one i've never heard before.

Answer 7

Coming up to easter this seems apropriat

he Was Wounded for Our Transgressions
13Behold, my servant shall act wisely;[a]
he shall be high and lifted up,
and shall be exalted.
14As many were astonished at you--
his appearance was so marred, beyond human semblance,
and his form beyond that of the children of mankind--
15so shall he sprinkle[b] many nations;
kings shall shut their mouths because of him;
for that which has not been told them they see,
and that which they have not heard they understand.

Footnotes:

1. Isaiah 52:13 Or shall prosper
2. Isaiah 52:15 Or startle

Answer 8

Leave the Jews alone.