A very dear friend, who I can attest to being truly sincere in her dealings with others, offered to assist the worship leader who is having problems in her approach to members of the praise team.
The leader - who I know well enough to say she does not like being told she is wrong, who likes to have her way, who throws tantrums to make her husband bend to her will - went to the pastor of their church and gave him a story.
The pastor, in his 'wisdom', did not have any discussion with the accused, but got up on the pulpit on Sunday morning and ranted on in what my friend said was a 'backyard' manner - literally throwing words, just short of cussing.
I was not there but I have witnessed something of the sort and felt I could not be preached to by anyone who behaved like that.
There is a proper forum for mature and peaceful discussion - especially at church. I totally do not agree that that behavior was appropriate.
Anyone - Christian of not - may respond. Just be honest.
2007-03-20 05:04:39 · 17 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I don't think that was appropriate either.
If he wanted to say something, he should've spoken to her in private. He should be a follower of the practices of Christ. Jesus never got angry with his disciples or publicly brought them out to make a point. He always used respect and love in dealing with them.
2007-03-20 05:09:50 · answer #1 · answered by ♥LadyC♥ 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
It looks as though everyone involved (except the accused) violated the passage in Matthew 18:15ff on how to deal with sin in the Body. Here's the relevant passage:
"If your brother sins against you, go and confront him while the two of you are alone. If he listens to you, you have won back your brother. But if he doesn't listen, take one or two others with you so that 'every word may be confirmed by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' If, however, he ignores them, tell it to the congregation. If he also ignores the congregation, regard him as a Gentile and a tax collector."
They now need to be approached by the husband in a biblical manner. First, he needs to follow through on Matthew 18:15ff. Then, if you have elders in the church, (because of the public nature of the offense) they need to rebuke the pastor publicly.
As it is written: "Do not accept an accusation against an elder unless it is supported by two or three witnesses. As for those who keep on sinning, rebuke them in front of everyone so that the others will also be afraid." (I Timothy 5:19-20)
Until this has been dealt with biblically, the dysfunction will remain, and people will harbor resentment.
2007-03-20 12:12:39 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
I think that if his behavior was that unfitting you should find another church. I would not want to worship in a honstel house. I have changed churchs before because I didn't agree with how the pastor gave word.
There are a lot of great christian churchs to choose from
2007-03-20 12:09:33 · answer #3 · answered by The Voice Of Reason 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
What the heck is a praise team? Do they have team jackets and compete with other praise teams from other churches in who can pray the most?
That "leader" is an ******, beeyotch, and a major C. Someone offered to help, what's so bad about that? If she didn't want it, she could just say no and move on.
The pastor is probably in her pocket for "services rendered."
2007-03-20 12:27:02 · answer #4 · answered by Carlo 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Sounds like your friend needs to either find a new church or join with other like minded, mature people within the church to oust that preacher. Also, if the woman is so manipulative and childish as to throw tantrums your friend needs to distance herself from her to avoid being drawn into her drama. A good pastor would see through that woman's childish rants and counsel her properly. I'd say this is not a good pastor.
2007-03-20 12:17:51 · answer #5 · answered by Murazor 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Someone needs to talk to this Pastor! He should have brought the 2 people together and handled the problem privately.
Personally, I think the man should be removed from his position for fear that he may start chasing away others, such as yourself! Any personal problems are supposed to be held in confidence and not share with the congregation. If he is so easily swayed to one persons side without investigating the situation is by no means a man who should be in charge
2007-03-20 12:13:59 · answer #6 · answered by realdocjay 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Suggest that the pastor take a class on the right "manners" as far as talking about private/confidential matters.
Although I believe the pastor may have thought everyone could glean something from a sermon of such a sort, it was still wrong of him/her to condemn the accused without talking to them privately first.
Perhaps the pastor needs sensativity training along with the rules of confidentiality/privacy.
2007-03-20 12:11:51 · answer #7 · answered by Nepetarias 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Read 2 timothy 4:1-5 and 1 Timothy 3:1-5 and Romans 1:18-28 the bible give you the answer.
2007-03-20 12:09:44 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Christians, including your pastor are called to be childlike, not childish.
For him to say anything is wrong, but to use the pulpit? You need to leave that church, or push the pastor out. Anyone that would misuse God's voice in the church is not worthy to be called a pastor.
2007-03-20 12:09:26 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Sounds like your in the wrong Church. The way a 'man of God' is SUPPOSED to condone himself (as are we all) is the Christ-like manner, and nothing you said s/he did was Christ-like therefore how can they be ordained by God?
My suggestion is to find yourself a new congregation/pastor. Pray and ask God to direct you to the right church!
God Bless~Good luck
2007-03-20 17:58:31 · answer #10 · answered by Chasity 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋