Pocket Kings???

Question

Have you ever got away from pocket kings pre flop?? Honestly??

Answer 1

Twice in super satellite situations, similar to what pokercoach said. Once in a cash game to 2 all ins from reasonable players.

At the stakes I play (relatively low stakes online cash games) there's rarely a place for it.

Answer 2

Yes, once. Even stranger though, I have laid down AA twice pre-flop. I know, I know... but I did, and furthermore, was correct to do so both times.

But first the kings: $20/$20 blind No-Limit cash game. A player raises under the gun to $75 which was low standard for this game. It was folded to me and I made it $275. It was folded around to him and he made it $700 - I folded. Was very situational - I know the player.

Now the aces - first case: Super Satellite Tournament. Top six make it to the World Series $10,000 final event. Seven players remain and someone goes all-in for $42,000 and they are called by someone with $42,500. I had about $46,000 and folded AA in the small blind. Though the small stack actually won - the remaining player with only $500 (blinds were $1500/$3000 at the time) was eliminated within two hands.

Second time: Was a small tournament. Tournament paid the final ten and we had eleven players left on two table - my table had six players. Everyone at my table was a short stack except me and no one wanted to go out on the bubble so I kept stealing the blinds over and over. There was a $100 ante and blinds were $500/$1000 so there was $2100 in the pot before any action every hand. I was stealing at least 4 hands per round (out of six) so I was picking up $8400 a round or an average of $1400 a hand. Eventually the player right in front of me went all-in for $2400 and I find aces. The big blind is a very tight, nervous player with $1200 remaining and I can't see him calling with anything less than AA, KK or maybe AK - because for him to call and lose means elimination. If I play the hand and lose - bad newsa of course - but even if I win it's bad news. If I bust him then I win $4500 but then the bubble issue is settled, everyone is in the money and the gravy train (my auto-stealing) is over for me. If I let him have this hand and go back to stealing right after this hand - I only have to pick up three ante and blinds combinations to break even and anything beyond that is extra. I mucked pre-flop, he won uncontested and I went on to steal another $11,000 before someone on the other table went broke.

Answer 3

YES I have, I remember one time it was a satellite and 2 shorts stake had push all-in and they had 1 call. So basically 3 for a flop and I was a little above average on chips. I fold it, and it was a good fold. Player 3 who call the 2 others flop a set and pick up the pot. ( 2 hands later I won a huge pot against one of the chip leader) I was able to place in 4 place in that tourney and won my seat.

When there is a good reason, when it 's not just to "make the money" You need to pick you spot and make a move. Tournaments are all about survival.

By the way, in cash game, I believe I never fold KK's, it's a ring game, there is no way you fold those.

I'm guessing of course you talk about NLH. I many time fold KK, even set of KK playing Omaha.

Take care

Answer 4

Not many pre flop although post flop IS a different story.

LIke the others have said, I have folded those bad boys when my raise is just overkilled. Usually the player in the later positions.

Answer 5

Yes. Years ago I was playing 3-6 texas holdem. I raised before the flop and was reraised by a player I knew would not do that without aces. Another player called, I folded and sure enough, he had the aces and won.

Answer 6

hell no. I mean I try to see the flop before I play kk. I mean yesterday i was knock out of a 35 dollar tourney when i hold kk and the guy got aa. man that was brutal, but no it kind of hard to get away unless i see like a crapload of all in or the guy has been playing very tight and bet too much then i definitely fold

Answer 7

I have when my raise was re-raised twice more before it got back to me. I folded and the other 2 went all in. Player 1 had QQ and Player 2 had AA. Player 2 won and i would of lost. It's all about the situation your in and who you are against. Reading your opponents is crucial in Poker

Answer 8

I have once. The one thing that seems to always be true in my experience is the fourth raise is always AA. If you have KK and are faced with a fourth raise preflop, then fold. After you fold, pat yourself on the back for an excellent lay down.

Answer 9

No! It's the second best starting hand! Although I did get my kings stomped by a pair of pocket rockets one time in AC--so maybe you should....

Answer 10

i folded them preflop twice ... one time the guy showed pocket aces ... another time he didnt show but i showed me kings and from his expression i think he had them

If he raises, i reraise, and he pushes, then i have to think about it. It would depend on his chipstack, my chipstack, the size of the blinds, and what type of player he is. If my reads say he would push with AA only, i may fold. If my reads say he will push with QQ+, AK+, then i would call