Greater minds that our have believed.
List of Christians:
Isaac Newton (today is his birthday!), Neils Bohr, Charles Darwin, Louis Pasteur, Galileo Galilei, Johannes Kepler, Nicolaus Copernicus, Michael Faraday, James Clerk Maxwell, Werner Heisenberg, Erwin Schrodinger, Andreas Vesalius, Tycho Brahe, Max Planck, Enrico Fermi, Arthur Eddington, William Harvey, Carl Gauss, John von Neumann, Gregor Mendel, John Dalton, Alexander Fleming
Non-believers usually will hide behind the problem of evil existing in the world for their non-belief.
The only logical problem which arises in connection with discussions of evil is the unbeliever's philosophical inability to account for the objectivity of his moral judgments. Yes, when bad things happen to persons, little babies, etc., we want to know the reasons, but the simple fact is that God does not always (indeed, rarely) provide an explanation to human beings for the evil which they experience or observe. "The secret things belong to the Lord our God" (Deuteronomy 29:29). We might not be able to understand God's wise and mysterious ways, even if He told us (cf. Isaiah 55:9). Nevertheless, the fact remains that He has not told us why misery and suffering and injustice are part of His plan for history and for our individual lives.
So then, the Bible calls upon the believer to trust that God has a morally sufficient reason for the evil which can be found in this world, but it does not tell us what that sufficient reason is. The believer often struggles with this situation, walking by faith rather than by sight. The unbeliever, however, finds the situation intolerable for his pride, feelings, or rationality. The non-believer refuses to trust God. The non-believer will not believe that God has a morally sufficient reason for the evil which exists, unless the non-believer is given that reason for his own examination and assessment. To put it bluntly, the non-believer will not trust God unless God subordinates Himself to the intellectual authority and moral evaluation of the non-believer -- unless God consents to trade places with the sinner.
The problem of evil comes down to the question of whether a person should have faith in God and His word or rather place faith in his own human thinking and values. It finally becomes a question of ultimate authority within a person's life. And in that sense, the way in which non-believers struggle with the problem of evil is but a continuing testimony to the way in which evil entered human history in the first place. The Bible indicates that sin and all of its accompanying miseries entered this world through the first transgression of Adam and Eve. And the question with which Adam and Eve were confronted way back then was precisely the question which non-believers face today: should we have faith in God's word simply on His say-so, or should we evaluate God and His word on the basis of our own ultimate intellectual and moral authority? As Adam and Eve so acted, when non-believers refuse to accept the goodness of God on the basis of His own self-revelation, they simply perpetuate the source of all of our human woes. Rather than solving the problem of evil, non-believers are part of the problem.
Therefore, it should not be thought that "the problem of evil" is anything like an intellectual basis for a lack of faith in God. It is rather simply the personal expression of such a lack of faith. What we find is that non-believers who challenge the Christian faith end up reasoning in circles. Because they lack faith in God, non-believers begin by arguing that evil is incompatible with the goodness and power of God. When non-believers are presented with a logically adequate and Biblically supported solution to the problem of evil (viz., God has a morally sufficient but undisclosed reason for the evil that exists), they refuse to accept it, again because of their lack of faith in God. Non-believers would rather be left unable to give an account of any moral judgment whatsoever (about things being good or evil) than to submit to the ultimate and unchallengeable moral authority of God. That is too high a price to pay, both philosophically and personally.
2007-03-20 03:21:19
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answered by Ask Mr. Religion 6
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Just one interesting note - The Bible has been the number one best seller every year since " best sellers" existed. It was also the first book printed on a printing press 400 or so years ago.Three thousand year old copies ( Dead sea Scrolls) are word for word what we have today. I am not trying to change your mind, but I think you are inappropriate in calling it an ancient superstition and myth. It seems to me it is more of a book pertinent to all people for all time.I would never try to impose my beliefs on you. I only wish you could experience the happiness of being at peace with you maker.
One more thing. It seems to me that anti God people have mistakenly attributed all the negative things they saw in Christians to God. In America today, it is cool to be a Christian and, if you didn't notice, there isn't an entrance exam at the back of the church or God police on patrol for fake Sunday morning Christians. My point is that under these conditions there are all different kinds of people in churches for many different reasons.i.e going to church to pick up babes - how hypocritical is that. Anyway please don't judge God by looking at those who claim His name.Best wishes!
2007-03-20 03:19:11
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answered by ben s 2
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Being made as a child to believe and having this pushed and stapled in to my brain. I went to a Baptist School all of my life until 10Th grade of High School. Parents could afford it anymore to keep us there. I decided to make Science my major.
Well lets just say that science and religion don't match up. It is proven that we evolved to where we are today. Hard Facts and lets me tell you it was a hard blow to my stapled brain of religion. Now at that point I am a confused 15 yr old who has to decide if what is proven fact, or a book that nobody really knows who wrote is true? So I asked my confused mind, and it said if 'god' made man of his own image then 'god' is a APE!
So believe what you want but as for me I think I made my point.
BTW I am 30 now and I don't take my kids to church so they can form their own opinions about the matter.
2007-03-20 03:11:38
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answered by Rach30 2
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Doesn't that put you in the position that you despise most about Christians? The thorn in the side of quite a few atheists (me included) is the sanctimonious preaching coming from the mouths of some believers, and your "obligation to spread the word" puts you right in the same place. Do you really want to be there?
2007-03-20 03:06:19
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answered by Sookie 6
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It actually takes more faith to not believe in God than to believe. Why would you want to "spread the word"? Christians are called to spread the word about Christ.
The best way I have found to convince people of anything is to research what you are talking about, read the Bible and find out what it says, then research why you think it is wrong and use that as your basis to refute religious beliefs.
2007-03-20 02:52:54
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answered by Rock H 2
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We understand you feel it is your obligation. Please understand it's our obligation to spread the word and the truth that there IS a real, living God.
Isaiah 32:6
"For a fool speaks nonsense, and his heart inclines toward wickedness:To practice ungodliness and to speak error against the Lord, to keep the hungry person unsatisfied and to withhold drink from the thirsty."
If you are wondering about the hungry/thirsty comment, it is a statement that means they try to keep people away from religion and God who may need Him. They are doing an evil thing.This is the wickedness their heart seems inclined to do.
2007-03-20 02:50:52
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answered by Bill Mac 7
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Chloe,
Some of the most brilliant people on the planet in the last 1000 years believe there is good evidence to have faith that there is a God. You are saying that you are smarter than them?
The hard part is that atheists REFUSE to admit that faith is part of their lives. Its impossible to live in this world without faith. Study a little philosophy and you will understand this. We can only know what we receive through our 5 senses. It takes faith to then 'believe' what you sense is real.
You just have a different FAITH than believers in God.
Stop sounding like a religious fundamentalists.. you used the term "MAKE YOU COME TO REALISE". That sounds like closed minded authoritarianism to me. Is that what you want religionists to do? MAKE YOU?
2007-03-20 02:51:30
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answered by kent j 3
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I do see that you believe its your obligation to spread that, and if you live in the United States, it is your RIGHT to do that, and I respect that right.
I completely disagree with you, but I will support your right to your opinion, and for you to peaceably spread that word to anyone you want to convince.
I merely ask that you afford me the same respect that I'm showing to you. Perhaps someday we can have a meaningful dialogue about our differences and understand one another better.
2007-03-20 02:47:13
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answered by Scotty Doesnt Know 7
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God is HOW you are, FREE WILL allows you to choose what that will BE.
God is HOW you are able to recognize your own reflection, when it is your own face you cannot and have not seen.
God is HOW you are able to recognize yourself in a photo 20 years later, when you no longer look that way and all the people you knew in the photo, you have now forgotten...... but you are able to remember yourself.
Your body is WHAT you are IN, not WHO you are.
Tangible is temporary.
Spirit is forever.
Time is an illusion.
Love is what is REAL.
Fears are imaginary.
Religions are humanity trying to explain the unexplainable.
God is as REAL as YOU are.......
Blessings.
2007-03-21 05:29:13
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answered by wildflower 4
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I personally don't believe in "god" but i feel like people can believe in whatever they want. If they want to believe in an all powerful being that's their choice. I dont think anyone should push their beliefs on anyone else, your spiritual beliefs are something you need to form on your own. I do however object to people trying to convert people to other religions. Just yesterday some of my "friends" were trying to convert me to christianity. I know they are just worried about me going to "hell" but it's every person's own choice what they believe in, and arguing with them about it is not going to change their mind.
2007-03-20 02:49:40
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answered by Billybob J 1
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"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who shall privately bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, bring swift destruction upon themselves". (2 Peter 2:1),
"For the time will come when they shall not endure sound teaching, but after their own lusts they shal heap to themselves teachers who tell them what they want to hear,, and they will turn away their ears from the truth..." 2 Tim .4:3
Thanks for proving that the Word of God is true.
2007-03-20 02:46:50
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answered by Anonymous
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