What could be taking Abbas and Haniyeh and other Palestinian politicians so frigging long to realize this?

Question

Recognize Israel...Renounce violence...Uphold earlier peace agreements...And you'll get the money!
It's not brain surgery. :-)

"Recognise Isreal (Admit defeat, I've taken your land)"
It's not 'your land.' (1) The Jews are the oldest 'Palestinians' still in existence, having a history in the region that goes back 3,000 years. (2) There have been a number of plans to divide the territory into Arab and Jewish states. The British tried it. The United Nations tried it. The Israeli Government is trying it. It's always a failure because Arab Palestinians don't want peace. They want Israel destroyed. Peace is a joke. (3) What exactly is 'your land'? Excluding East Jerusalem, Gaza, and the West Bank, Israel covers 8,000 square miles, making it one of the smallest countries in the Middle East. It is the only Jewish state in the world. I seem to remember Arabs have twenty two states covering ten percent of the earth. Sixty years later they still can't accept a Jewish state in their midst. Hehe.

"Renounce Violence (give up defending yourself)"
That's the stupidest thing I've read yet! But of course you're right. How do you create your own country? You blow yourself up. You fire rockets from civilian buildings. You machine gun Jewish settlers to death. Duh.
"Agree to previous peace treaties (See how I want to settle this dispute, don't worry these are just crocodile tears)."
No wonder we're not getting anywhere. How many peace treaties have there been in the last sixty years? Now how many of them have been broken by the Palestinians? Ironically, life was much better in the disputed territories before Hamas won the elections and stopped operating by the peace treaties that Fatah had agreed to than before the elections. The economy was looking all right and there wasn't as much crime and lawlessness as we see today. Oh, and Palestinians weren't selling their wedding jewelry to make ends meet because of the boycott.

"I think you'll find that after and during the Second World War is when the mass migration of Jews took place to Palestine. Yes the land was a Jewish land, but you nor I cannot conclude that the Palestinians decendants of the same people, just because they're Muslims. I know people have migrated over the borders from Syria and Lebanon."

Yes, that's true. I have nothing against the Palestinians just because they're Muslim. There are many Christian Palestinians as well, or at least there used to be. Both Arab Palestinians and Jews have a right to settle their homeland and that's the resolution the UN Partition Plan attempted to create in 1947. Jerusalem was to be an internationally administered territory, while Arabs would get 44% of what remained of the British Mandate of Palestine and the Jews would get the remaining 56%. Israel was accordingly established on the 56% that was Jewish, but the Arabs refused to recognize this and invaded Israel the next day with the sole intention of its annihilation. Also, I need to remind you that while the Arab Jewish population has decreased by about 99.5% (from about one million to about 15,00) from the early 1940s to the present day as a result of the Jewish exodus from Arab lands, the Arab population in Israel has increased from 150,000 in 1948 to a million today.

This is not because of Israeli administration of dominantly Arab territories, since the Palestinians living in East Jerusalem, Gaza, and the West Bank are not Israeli citizens, and some Arabs in the Golan Heights have refused Israeli citizenship, but the result of Arab Israeli birthrates (4.6) which are 70% higher than the Jewish birthrates (2.6). So certainly the Israelis have shared their small country with the Arabs. The Palestinians want 250,000 Jewish settlers out of the West Bank just as they got 9,000 Jewish settlers out of Gaza, and they not only want Arab Israelis to stay in Israel but also a right to return to their homes in modern day Israel before the pre-1948 war displacement. The Israelis don't have much land. What they have, they share. The majority of Israeli voters support a phased withdrawal from the disputed territories. How many concessions are enough?

"Let's say I agree with you the Jews never left, this is their land. I on behlaf of the Muslims will give up the Palestine only if the descendants of White Europeans leave the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and out of Africa. Once this is done all Muslims will leave Palestine and recognise Isreal. Recognising Isreal is recognising current borders and recognising their authority."
Your argument is that you want descendants of white Europeans to leave lands they took over by force to their original inhabitants, the Aborigines or Africans or Native Americans, etc. But isn't that like saying Arabs should leave the lands they took by the sword 1,428 years ago from the Berbers and the Byzantines and the Persians? Before the Islamic conquests, the Arabs were pretty much confined to the Arabian Peninsula. Now, they form a majority population in North Africa and the Middle East, because these lands were conquered and then settled by vast numbers of Arabs.

Some Christians in the Middle East, such as the Copts of Egypt or the Maronite and Nestorian Christians of Lebanon, do not even consider themselves racially Arab since most Arabs are Muslims and intermarriage with Arab Muslims would usually have resulted in Muslim offspring. Egypt, Iraq, Libya, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia...None of these lands were Arab Muslim countries before the Islamic conquests.

Answer 1

Recognise Isreal (Admit defeat, I've taken your land) Renounce Violence (give up defending yourself) Agree to previous peace treaties (See how I want to settle this dispute, don't worry these are just crocodile tears).

Yeah real stupid. Is that why you're not leading a country? I hear the US lowered their standards with Bush you got a shot.

EDIT:
I think you'll find that after and during the Second World War is when the mass migration of Jews took place to Palestine. Yes the land was a Jewish land, but you nor I cannot conclude that the Palestinians decendants of the same people, just because they're Muslims. I know people have migrated over the borders from Syria and Lebanon.

Let's say I agree with you the Jews never left, this is their land. I on behlaf of the Muslims will give up the Palestine only if the descendants of White Europeans leave the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and out of Africa. Once this is done all Muslims will leave Palestine and recognise Isreal. Recognising Isreal is recognising current borders and recognising their authority.

Open your eyes how many people want to die? What desperation drives people to blow themselves up? You don't see the tanks and bulldozers destroying palestinian homes. You don't see the road blocks restriciting Palestinians every movement (these were all happening before the second intefada in 2000).

Yes things have been worse under Hamas becuase "Israel has since withheld $60m a month of tax revenues that should go to the Palestinians. Although some of that money has been spent paying the Palestinian bills of Israeli electricity and water companies, the Israelis have now withheld nearly $600m."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1967251,00.html

So come now become a little bit more enlightened.

Answer 2

Recognize Israel...well that was already done once and I doubt that they are going to do the same mistake again...In 1993,after the Oslo accord,the Palestinians ,through the PLO,have recognized Israel in the borders from 1967 giving up more then 70% of the land that should have belonged to them according to the partition plan...They have recognized Israel hoping that they will be create a Palestinian state on the remaining land...but this never happened...So after this I doubt that Hamas would hurry to recognize Israel now...

Renounce violence...well when they came to power Hamas tried to do this,but they were given no chance by Israel,and the rest of the world...Hamas offered Israel a 10 years truce, which ,of course,was rejected...
And when it comes to renounce violence and upholding earlier peace agreements ,this is something both parts need to do...

Answer 3

To make the long story short, Israel want to keep occupying land that was never part of Israel. A viable Palestine means a viable Israel and no viable Palestine means no viable Israel and wars go on between the two people. No one could NOT change his mind unless he has no mind. Occupying other people by force is losing policy in the past and now and has no future.

Answer 4

dull humans are continuously gonna bicker. So the answer could be to advertise knowledge. When a man or woman turns into shrewd, he's going to become aware of there were civilized debates among found out sunni and shia pupils however the argument on no account ended. What was once no longer solved for hundreds of years is probably not solved now. However, what the shia and sunni controlled to do was once to co exist. But its intricate to do with idiots ruuning round - the variety you notice on yahoo solutions, who feel they gain anything distinguished and best by way of asking dull insulting questions.

Answer 5

In the modern world, keeping conflicts going is one of the most sure way of maintaining your political power - but only up to a point, as the US Republicans are rapidly learning.

The Palestian politicians are a long way from that point, unfortunately.

Answer 6

Probably because they recognize they are being manipulated out of there natural resources and they are tired of European occupation.

Answer 7

Fanatics hardly ever listen to the voice of reason.

Answer 8

lol... i agree with you.... been trying to firgure that out too. the conclusion i got is, they are not that smart...