Today most planes dont come as close to have dog fights, so in this scene is does VT help in evading beyond visual range missile. Can a plane having VT out turn a beyond visual range missile. If not what is the fun......
2007-03-19 23:28:32 · 5 answers · asked by sandeep_frank 1 in Cars & Transportation ➔ Aircraft
The turn rates of most missiles are better than that of the most maneuverable of target aircrafts, so I guess using VT for aerobatics would bleed energy and make the aircraft more vulnerable. Proponents of VT claim that the missiles guidance algorithms would be confused by the "un-aircraftlike" antics of the supermaneuverable aircraft, based on the theory that missiles are programmed to go where the aircraft WILL BE at the time of impact. Dunno how true this is, and even if it is true, missiles have the history of evolving faster than their targets. So VT is more of a fancy.
The R-73 has thrust vectoring too!
2007-03-20 00:34:44 · answer #1 · answered by ? 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
As a last resort you still need manoeuverability. A long range shot will be gliding and will bleed off speed rapidly when it manoeuvers, so if it gets close your last resort is a max g pullup.
Other than that, anything that loses you energy is a bad idea in a BVR engagement, statistically the a/c that maintains its energy situation best will win. If you get to the point of pulling hard turns then you may be on the downward side of the equation. BVR turns into VR very fast, at that point ASRAAM is supposed to have (if they ever complete it) all aspect and lock on after launch capability. Basically if you are in range you are dead. But I expect that people doing what I used to do will come up with a way of dealing with that... if they haven't already.
Mostly I agree that thrust vectoring is a sideshow because you no longer need to look where you are shooting. Just point your helmet mounted HUD at the bad guy, click a button to lock him up, and you might be looking 'through' the a/c, then pull the trigger.
2007-03-20 13:19:34 · answer #2 · answered by Chris H 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Actually, tight turns are very good after expending chaff or flare.
A missile's turn radius isn't really that good, given the speed at which they travel. This isn't a Looney Tunes environment.
If the aircraft slows down, then can do an abrupt maneuver, the missile will have a tendency to overfly and lose lock-on.
2007-03-20 08:17:36 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Lets put this way, an agile and acrobatic kungfu master cannot be hit by a sniper rifle IF he sees the incoming bullet and do some flipping moves to dodge it.
Btw, if you were a pilot, how much time do you have to make a move to dodged a missile when you first saw it coming? i understand that Phoenix missile could only be detected only seconds before it will hit you.
2007-03-22 04:57:37 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Good question, and I honestly believe that it's a white elephant these days.
Given the fact that BVR missiles will prevent the need to get into a dogfight and I doubt it would ever get used.
2007-03-20 08:04:04 · answer #5 · answered by Claython 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋