If God knows already those who will reject His Salvation, what will be their fate in this lifetime?

Question

i know God knows everything . And that He gives man free will.
If He knows already those who will accept or reject His salvation, will He give up on those whom He know who will reject His Salvation?

Since a lot has been written about the fate of those who will reject the Messiah in the afterlife....

What i am interested to know is....What will happen to their fate in this life?

Will He give up on them, because He knows already what they'll choose>?

Answer 1

An omnipotent God is cannot create a person incapable of choosing evil. Thus the potential for a person to choose to sin or reject God's call to eternal grace exists.

God’s Knowledge Allows Free Will.

God’s knowledge is not simply of the actual; he also knows all possible sorts of potential. He knows what is and ever could-be. For God knows whatever is in any way it can be known. Now both the actual and the potential are real. Only the impossible has no reality. Thus, whatever is potential is real. It follows that God can know what is potential as well as what is actual.

This means that God can know future contingents, that is, things that are dependent on free choice. For the future is a potential that pre-exists in God. And God knows whatever exists in himself as the cause of those things. Since God is a timeless being, he knows all of time in one eternal now. But the future is part of time. Therefore, God knows the future, including the free acts to be performed in it. Of course, whatever God knows is known infallibly, since God cannot err in his knowledge. Future contingents are known infallibly. They are contingent with regard to their immediate cause (human free choice) but necessary with regard to God’s knowledge. God can do this without eliminating free choice, for an omniscient being can know whatever is not impossible to know. And it is not impossible for a timeless being to know a necessary end caused by a contingent means. God can know a must-be through a may-be but not a can’t-be.

Therefore, an omniscient Being knows future actions as necessarily true events. If an action will occur and God knows it, then that event must occur, for an omniscient Mind cannot be wrong about what it knows. Therefore the statement “Everything known by God must necessarily be” is true if it refers to the statement of the truth of God’s knowledge, but it is false if it refers to the necessity of the contingent events.

God Does Not Change His Mind.

Neither can God’s will be changed, for God’s will is in perfect accord with his knowledge. He is omniscient, so what he knows will be will be. Therefore, God’s will is unchangeable. This does not mean that God does not will that some things change. But God’s will does not change, even though he does will that other things change. When the Bible speaks of God “repenting,” it means that from where we stand it looks as if he has changed his mind. God knew from eternity how it would fall out. And God’s will includes intermediate causes, such as human free will. So God knows what the intermediate causes will choose to do. And God’s will is in accord with his unchangeable knowledge.

Therefore, God’s will never changes, since he wills what he knows will happen. What is willed by conditional necessity does not violate human free¬dom, since what is willed is conditioned on their freely choosing it. God wills the salvation of human beings conditionally. Therefore, God’s will to salvation does not violate human free choice, but uses it.

God then, through his foreknowledge of our actions, has elected those that will choose to repent, claiming the atoning sacrifice of Christ, the second person of the Godhead. Moreover, God elected those before the world was even created. The issue is the term "elect". Is it conditional on a person's choice or conditioned on an irresitable pull from God?

The doctrine of salvation, soteriology, holds two primary beliefs.

As relates to salvation, there are a couple of theological concepts worth mentioning. Arminianism sees the choice of Christ as impossible, apart from God's grace; and the freedom to choose is given to all, because God's prevenient grace is universal (given to everyone). Therefore, God predestines on the basis of foreknowledge of how some will respond to his universal love ("conditional"). Think of Arminianism as "John 3:16 for anyone who so believes".

In contrast, Calvinism views "universal" grace as resistible and not sufficient for leading to salvation--or denies "universal" grace altogether--and instead supposes **grace that leads to salvation** to be particular and irresistible, given to some (the elect) but not to others on the basis of God's predestinating choice ("unconditional"). Think of Calvinism as "John 3:16 for only the elect God has chosen before time began".

When a person rejects God's call to righteousness, He will give "...them up to dishonorable passions."
(Rom 1:26; ESV translation)

God gave them up, in a way of righteous judgment, as the just punishment of their idolatry - taking off the bridle of restraining grace - leaving them to themselves - letting them alone; for his grace is his own, God is debtor to no man, he may give or withhold his grace at pleasure.

Whether this giving up be a positive act of God or only privative we leave to the theologians to dispute: but this we are sure of that it is no new thing for God to give men up to their own hearts' lusts, to send them strong delusions, to let Satan loose upon them, nay, to lay stumbling-blocks before them.

And yet God is not the author of sin, but herein infinitely just and holy; for, though the greatest wickedness follow upon this giving up, the fault of that is to be laid upon the sinner's wicked heart.

If the patient be obstinate, and will not submit to the methods prescribed, but wilfully takes and does that which is prejudicial to him, the physician is not to be blamed if he give him up as in a desperate condition; and all the fatal symptoms that follow are not to be imputed to the physician, but to the disease itself and to the folly and wilfulness of the patient.

Answer 2

The bible says that God wills that "none should perish" (2 Peter 3:9) The bible also says that even nature points out that God is Lord of all creation (Romans 1:20). Everyone has the same chance to choose God. I think you may be troubled by the idea of preordination. I do not believe that God has preordained whether a person will be saved or not. This flies in the face of salvation. It is a free gift, freely given. If the deck was stacked, so to speak, it would all become meaningless. God NEVER gives up, any more than any earthly parent would give up on their beloved child. He loves us too much and gave too big a sacrifice on our behalf to turn His back.

Answer 3

No one is predestined. God *chooses* *not* to know. God didn't know beforehand that Adam and Eve were going to sin. He didn't know that the children of Israel were going to sin. That's why they wondered about for forty years! If they had listened to God, they would have reached the Promised Land in only eleven days. (Taken from "Predestination and Israel" by Earnest Angley)

God chooses *not* to know, so that mankind can have and use every chance to get right before Him. God won't know until one dies.

That's why one should NEVER leave earth without Jesus. Likewise, the Bible stands for: Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth

I don't know for sure if God 'gives up' on folks, but I *do* know He'll get disgusted with them, and ignore them after awhile. The job that He wants YOU to do, He'll give to someone else! Then *you'll* lose out on all kinds of blessings. That's why you should always ask for forgiveness. Daily.

If your life isn't going too well,..........then it's time to hand it over to Jesus.

I hope this helps.

Answer 4

God doesn't give up. That is why there is a time between the Rapture and Christ's second coming to earth. The Rapture will be the proof of God for those who don't believe. Everyone gets a second chance! God wants as many of us as will accept him. Anyone can change at anytime in their lives, there are people who accept him and ask forgiveness on their death beds and He takes them! He's hoping for changes....

Answer 5

You kinda answered your own question. What is the point really if someone is helpless and that is thier fate and he knows they will never accept him then why should he expect them too. Don't make much sense does it.? Some people will say cause he has hope you will change your mind and free will and all that stuff, but on the same hand they say its just the way he planned it, well sorry but from where I stand you cannot have it both ways. Religion is one big contradiction after another.

Answer 6

I will get into trouble again here with my Christian brothers and sisters but I need to be honest.

I do not believe that God knows who will come to him and who will not. If he knew the future of each person, what would have been the point of creating Adam and Eve in the first place? Why didn't he prevent Lucifer from turning against him? Why would he have allowed Lucifer access to Adam and Eve? Why would he have sent Christ?
I believe that man made God all knowing.
As to what happens to non believers....for the most part, they will have fun and often prosper in this life because they think mostly of themselves rather than others. Satan loves to see them play their games and he often rewards them with riches of this earth. It is often said that if Satan can not defeat you through curses, he will tempt you with riches.

Answer 7

Some people don't choose to follow God until they are minutes from death...He never gives up on us. We choose to reject Him. He still offers chances after the Rapture and when the Anti-christ is ruling Earth before Jesus returns to set up His kingdom and Satan is bound and thrown into the pit.

Answer 8

You limit God in your thinking and your pre-supposition.

Foreknowledge does not necessarily mean "foreordained". God knows what will happen if you go straight. Or, if you turn left. Or, if you turn right...or turn around - or stand on your head!! He knows the outcomes of an infinite number of possibilities and variables.

That's the way free will works. If all was foreordained - then it wouldn't be very "free" would it.

All Christians do not think like Calvinists - just so ya know.

Answer 9

yes he does know who in the very end will accept and whom will not, but he still gives everyone a last chance. He puts people there in your way so that they may talk to you about God and he starts working with your heart so that you will be willing to listen and maybe open your heart out to him. But yea everyone does have many chances to repent. But if at the end you do not repent, then you will be spending all eternity in hell where there will be nothing else other than suffering and pain.

Answer 10

God can punish in this world and the next.
Predestinination is a Calvinist doctrine. It is not generally accepted. God gives free will so we can choose.
Everyone makes their own choice. God doesn't give up on anyone. People give up on God, and choose evil.

Answer 11

God can choose to either know or not.
But he did give us free will, so right up to Armageddon, we can be accepted by him.
Even those who have accepted him noe must strive to maintain good relations.
Once saved is NOT always saved.
(2 CORINTHIANS 13:5) “Keep testing whether YOU are in the faith, keep proving what YOU yourselves are. Or do YOU not recognize that Jesus Christ is in union with YOU? Unless YOU are disapproved.”