What does Scientologists have against Psychiatry?

Question

If psychietry is forbidden in your beleifs, why is that so? What are your alternatives to psychietric treatment in Scientology? What do you when your people have mental illnesses in your religion?

The use of shock treatments and lobatamies are extremely rare in modern psychietry.

Thethattalways that was a rather beutifle explination of Scientology, however can you explain to me how
psychietrists abuse human rights?

Answer 1

To be happy see this video;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4P5Pmdvgp4

The anti-Psych movement is composed of hundreds of groups. Scientologist are just the most famous group but there are many others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-psychiatry
http://www.drugawareness.org/
http://www.adhdfraud.org/
http://www.escapefrompsychiatry.org/
http://www.antipsychiatry.org/
http://www.mindfreedom.org/
http://www.endofshock.com/
http://www.stopshrinks.org/
http://www.gwenolsen.com/
http://psychrights.org
http://www.prescriptionsuicide.com/
http://www.breggin.com/
http://www.healthyskepticism.org/
http://www.aspire.us/

About Psychiatry see this video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3895596783332855545&q=psychiatry+is+fraude&hl=en

Understanding Psychiatry:

"Psychiatry is not the same as neurology; whereas neurology treats diseases that have their aetiology or their physiology known and proven by medical science, psychiatry treats mental conditions where aetiology and physiology are both unknown and unproven.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_diseases

Psychiatry is not the same as Psychology; whereas Psychology studies the cognitive and subconscious mental processes of man with no regard towards physiology; Psychiatry studies theoretical mental disorder with the assumption that those disorders are based on physiological deficiencies.

Psychology develops therapies aimed to improve mans cognitive processes; whereas Psychiatry develops physiological treatments to treat theoretical physiological deficiencies where aetiology and physiology are both unknown and unproven.

The unscientific assumption that mental disorders are based on physiological deficiencies creates an arbitrary that makes any further research done by Psychiatry unscientific. You can’t base science on assumptions and arbitraries.

Psychiatry treats theoretical mental disorders with theoretical physiological treatments.

Examples of Psychiatric theoretical mental disorders:
Premenstrual dysphonic disorder (PMDD) is a severe form of premenstrual syndrome.
Gender identity disorder: If you are gay you have this disorder.
Female orgasmic disorder: Many types of conditions are under this code.
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders published by the American Psychiatric Association. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-IV_Codes_%28alphabetical%29
As you see, these mental disorders are actually unscientific arbitraries based solely on opinion.

Examples of Psychiatric theoretical physiological treatments:
1st Example
Electroconvulsive therapy is a barbaric treatment where brain damage is induced into the patient by passing 70 to 200 volts of electricity through your brain. The electro shock and the heat further produce more brain damage by the effect decomposition and toxicity of dead brain cells. The only benefit of Electroconvulsive therapy is that it produces memory loss and amnesia. So the patient forgets its problems. Electroconvulsive therapy has caused death, coma and disabilities on patients.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2431926628202445879
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2761074183936137060
“About 100,000 people in the USA undergo ECT every year.”
“The most commonly accepted theory is that ECT's mechanism of action is similar to that of antidepressant drugs and involves neurotransmitters, in particular dopaminergic, serotoninergic and noradrenergic systems.”
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroconvulsive_shock_therapy

2nd Example:
Lobotomy is another barbaric treatment developed by Psychiatry in the name of mental health. In this procedure brain damage is induced into the patient by cutting the connections to and from the prefrontal cortex or simply destroying it.
“Even lobotomy's proponents admitted that only one third of the operated patients would improve, while one-third remained the same, and one-third got worst (25 to 30 % is the proportion of spontaneous improvement in many kinds of mental diseases! Thus, a large proportion of the operated patients could have recovered without the lobotomy).
http://www.cerebromente.org.br/n02/historia/lobotomy.htm

3rd Example:
The chemical imbalance theory, this theory alleges that serotonin deficiency in the brain causes depression. The following video explains this theory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR9vtdueubc&mode=related&search=

But this theory is not based in science and experts disagree:

“I spent the first several years of my career doing full-time research on brain serotonin metabolism, but I never saw any convincing evidence that any psychiatric disorder, including depression, results from a deficiency of brain serotonin. In fact, we cannot measure brain serotonin levels in living human beings so there is no way to test this theory. Some neuroscientists would question whether the theory is even viable, since the brain does not function in this way, as a hydraulic system”
Stanford psychiatrist David Burns, winner of the A.E. Bennett Award given by the Society for Biological Psychiatry for his research on serotonin metabolism, when asked about the scientific status of the serotonin theory in 2003.

“Although it is often stated with great confidence that depressed people have a serotonin or norepinephrine deficiency, the evidence actually contradicts these claims”
Professor Emeritus of Neuroscience Elliot Valenstein

“Indeed, no abnormality of serotonin in depression has ever been demonstrated”
Psychiatrist David Healy, former secretary of the British Association for Psychopharmacology and historian of the SSRIs, in Let Them Eat Prozac (2004).

“A sugar pill was more effective than either St. John’s Wort or the antidepressant Zoloft in providing relief to severely depressed patients, according to a new study that is unlikely to end the debate about the role of the popular supplement in treating the disorder.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3076831/

“…I wrote that Prozac was no more, and perhaps less, effective in treating major depression than prior medications…. I argued that the theories of brain functioning that led to the development of Prozac must be wrong or incomplete”
Brown University psychiatrist Peter Kramer, author of Listening to Prozac, which is often credited with popularizing SSRIs, in a clarifying letter to the New York Times in 2002.

“Some have argued that depression may be due to a deficiency of NE [norepinephrine] or 5-HT [serotonin] because the enhancement of noradrenergicnor serotonergic neurotransmission improves the symptoms of depression. However, this is akin to saying that because a rash on one’s arm improves with the use of a steroid cream; the rash must be due to a steroid deficiency”
Psychiatrists Pedro Delgado and Francisco Moreno, in “Role of Norepinephrine in Depression,” published in the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry in 2000.

We must be able to differentiate real scientific research against special interest research. The fact is that the chemical imbalance theory is unfounded because:
1) A connection of ‘emotional states’ and neurotransmission levels have not been established.
2) It is impossible to measure the serotonin levels in living human beings.
3) There is no evidence that brain cells produce and then reabsorb serotonin.

In the following video two college professor explain exactly what I’m saying in Fox News: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbTqjSfMPKA&mode=related&search=

We must understand that psychiatric drugs are a multi billion dollars industry, and that careful marketing campaigns are created to push these drugs. We can even say that the whole “Chemical Imbalance Theory” was created in an effort to market these drugs. We can also say that anti-depressants are actually a marketing name for stimulants and anti-psychotic are actually a marketing name for depressants.
Three types of drugs:

Narcotics: (OxyContin, Vicodin, Percocet), also known as analgesics or opiods are drugs that are prescribed for moderate to severe physical pain. They are abused because of their euphoric, sedating, and numbing effects. Narcotic abuse causes tolerance and dependence and the withdrawal symptoms are severe.

Depressants: (Xanax, Valium, Librium) are drugs that are prescribed to treat anxiety and sleep disorders. They are abused because of their sedating properties. With abuse, depressants cause tolerance and dependence and the withdrawal symptoms can be severe.

Stimulants: Ritalin, Dexedrine, Meridia) are prescribed to treat ADD/ADHD and other conditions such as asthma. They are abused because of their energizing and euphoric effects. Stimulants do not generally cause tolerance or dependence but abuse is associated with hostility and paranoia. There is also great risk for cardiovascular failure and seizures.

-Ritalin: Prescribed for individuals (usually children) who have attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), has a high potential for abuse and produces many of the same effects as cocaine or amphetamine. http://www.streetdrugs.org

Psychiatrists are not common people. Psychiatrists have a different point of view than the rest of society:
“A recent survey in the UK found that 83 per cent of psychiatrists thought that ECT( Electroconvulsive therapy) was more likely to be beneficial than harmful – this figure fell to 69 per cent of mental health nurses and 14 per cent of psychologists.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroconvulsive_therapy

So how come Psychiatrists have such a different point of view than Psychologists and the rest of society?
Whereas Psychologists confronts the human mind or psyche and understand that each person behaviors is an evolution of his own personal experiences. Psychiatrists are unable to confront the human psyche; Psychiatrists don’t care about your emotional issues or traumas; Psychiatrists only deal with man as an object, a biomechanical machine incapable of controlling his mental processes.

How else can you explain Psychiatry barbaric treatments? Like Electroconvulsive therapy, Lobotomies, strait jackets and severe drugging of patients. For them you are not a person; for them you are only a biomechanical machine. People that join the Psychiatric profession do it in order to learn to deal with man in a mechanical way.

The real role of Psychiatry in society is that they are psyche executioners of society. Whenever a person doesn’t conform with the behavioral rules of society they can be sent to a Psychiatrist. And the Psychiatrist enforces the person to conform by the use of multiple control mechanisms; these mechanisms are drugs, electroshock, lobotomies and incarceration (When you are committed into a Psychiatric hospital against your will you are being incarcerated and your freedom is taken away from you. After this the patients are so scared that they will do anything in order to get out of that place.).
The behavioral rules of society are clearly expressed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders published by the American Psychiatric Association.


About you other questions:
Sanity is the ability to make clear self determined choices in full awareness.
Sanity is to “know”. Insanity is confusion, chaos and unawareness.
You can’t electro shock someone to be sane, you can’t torture someone to be sane, you can’t lobotomize someone to be sane and you can’t drug someone to sane.
In other words if a person wants to be insane they will be insane and there is little you can do. Is their choice.

Now if you are talking about minor stuff like depresion
Scientology uses a series of verbal communication procedures that invites the person to make new discoveries and observations about self, others and the physical universe. Then the person can use his newly gained understanding to make better choices and change his state of mind.

We are not against mental heath. We are are against mental heath abuses, lobotomies, electro shock and drugs. We believe that man has rights and deserves to be treated with dignity and respect. We just want people to stop abusing the insane.

We are not against mental heath. We are against mental heath abuses, lobotomies, electro shock and drugs. We believe that man has rights and deserves to be treated with dignity and respect. We just want people to stop abusing the insane.
Personally I think that LOVE, patience and understanding is the best therapy for the insane. I also think that we all treated each others with Love and respect no one would go insane. Have you ever heard of an Amish person going insane? Maybe I'm being too civil for people to understand me. Our modern society doesn't tolerate the insane, we marginalized them, and we stigmatize them, take them away from their homes, deprive them of their freedom and try to force them to be sane.
What would you do if your mother goes insane? Send her to an institution? Get rid of her?
Why is it that the more modern the civilization the greater the insanity rate?
Could it be that we by being intolerant of each other are creating insanity?

Answer 2

It works like this: they create an 'enemy' so it unites them. They fight together against this big 'enemy' and it justifies their highly priced auditing sessions that are supposed to be more highly advanced than psychiatry. They claim that it is much better than going to a mental health professional and getting some counseling. Counselling is quite harmless, so I don't know why it should be the enemy. I agree, that in a lot of cases, people shouldn't be prescribed all sorts of medicines but there are cases where putting a person on medication is the only answer. Of course, scientologists claim that those people shouldn't be on 'drugs' because they could treat them with auditing and vitamins. Lobotomy has been banned a long time ago. Electric Shock Treatments are much safer now and are only given when everything else has failed with the prior consent of the patient. I agree, that in the times of L. Ron Hubbard, psychiatry was very dangerous and perhaps a little abusive but that was some 60+ years ago. But then you could say that about open heart surgery too. The problem is, these scientology leaders do not keep up with the latest scientific researches, discoveries etc. so they are making ill-informed judgements. They are basing everything on how psychiatry as a science stood in times when perhaps they weren't even born yet.

Answer 3

I'm not a Scientologist, though I do know a bit about the philosophy. Also, I was a psychology major in college, & partially against psychiatry, myself.

From what I know, Scientologists just believe that mental illness is just your mind & body going 'off course', and psychiatric treatment only makes things worse (which, in some cases, is true). They believe that a healthy body will provide a healthy mind (also true in some cases), so their basic treatment is a healthy diet, vitamin supplements & exercise (which obviously won't help a schizophrenic much).

Answer 4

There are lots of folks against psychiatry, not just scientologists.

I think that Scientologists think that clean living (fresh air and exercise, etc.) is all you need to be mentally healthy - and I don't think that they really have to decide how to treat folks with mental illness. Those that can't cope with the Scientology idea leave, leaving only people who are happy and healthy the Scientology way - in a way proving their philosophy (if only to themselves).

Peace!

Answer 5

For a complete answer to your question you need to
contact The Citizens Commission on Human Rights at
www.cchr.org.

Scientology does not forbid. It is not a belief or faith based religion. We are a religion . We are not in the Mental Health or Insanity "business".
We are against psychiatry because it harms in the name of help and violates human rights with it's abuse. We support human rights.

This is what Scientology is :
Scientology is an applied religious philosophy. When I say "applied" I mean you actually use it in your life to change or improve existing conditions. It is a very practical religion.
All religions if you learn about them have a basic philosphy, but they also have certain dogma, rituals and observances, and a certain faith or belief is required. There is nothing wrong with this, but Scientology is not that kind of religion. It does not intrude on anyones faiths of beliefs in the area of God , the Supreme Being, or the Infinite. This area is left totally up to the indivdual as pasrt of his life. It does not conflict.
You can have no specific religious beliefs and still benefit from it.
And it is only true for you according to your own observation and experience with it.
It is also not a messianic religion. This means there is no worship of messiahs in Scientology. There are no “beliefs” as such because a truth should be according to ones own observation and experience.
The dictionary definition that applies:
Religion: The spiritual or emotional attitude of one who recognises the existence of superhuman power or powers.

The most basic principle of Scientology is that YOU are your own immortal soul, that this is not a "thing" you HAVE but what YOU actually are.
The whole purpose of Scientology is to increase an individual's understanding and awareness of himself. and lifeAnd thereby his native abilities .
When you do this the sphere and zone of his positive influence increases and moves outward into his life, his family ,his friends, his groups and mankind which he is part of.

How this result is achieved is the "technology" of Scientology, which was developed by L.Ron Hubbard after his extensive research and the discoveries he made, about the human spirit. The basic religious philosophy and knowledge of Scientology is very old, going back 10,000 years at least to the Veda or Vedic Hymns from the East. L. Ron Hubbard researched and made new discoveries about the human spirit. He developed technology from these discoveries to apply to increase spiritual awareness and ability.
He completed his research before his death in 1986 and left all of his results and copyrights
to the Church of Scientology along with most of his considerable personal estate, when he died.

He published a book in 1951 to communicate the basic principles he discovered called: " Scientology The Fundementals of Thought"
There are currently over 10 million Scientologists in more than 163 countries world wide. However we are a new religion, only 53 years old.
The true story of Scientology as a religion goes like this:
1. A philosopher developes a philosophy about life and death.
2. People find it interesting.
3. People find it works.
4. People pass it along to others.
5. It grows.

This is just an overview.
L. Ron Hubbard explained fully the theology and technologies of Scientology in more than 500,000 pages of writings, including dozens of books and over 2,000 tape-recorded public lectures.

Answer 6

"The Church says that psychiatry was responsible for World War I, the rise of Hitler and Stalin, the decline in education standards in the United States, the wars in Bosnia and Kosovo, and the September 11 attacks."

"Hubbard said that psychiatrists were an ancient evil that had been a problem for billions of years. He cast them in the role of assisting Xenu's genocide of 75 million years ago. In a 1982 bulletin entitled 'Pain and Sex', Hubbard declares that 'pain and sex were the INVENTED TOOLS of degradation', having been devised eons ago by psychiatrists 'who have been on the [time] track a long time and are the sole cause of decline in this universe.'"

Answer 7

Because they assisted Xenu, the dictator of the Galactic Confederacy, in his plan to kidnap of billions of his citizens in order to help with a problem of overpopulation. Those kidnapped citizens were transported to Earth (known as Teegeeack back then) in spaceships that looked like DC-8 airplanes. On Teegeeack/Earth, the kidnapped citizens were unloaded around the volcanoes of the planet, and hydrogen bombs were detonated inside the volcanoes. The result of this was billions of disembodied alien souls (thetans) being blown into the air, and captured in special vacuums. The thetans were then forced to watch movies which brainwashed them with the world's religions. Once released, the thetans gathered around the bodies of those who survived. So now when you have mental problems (depression, anxiety etc) that's due to thetans affecting you. Since psychiatrists were in on creating the problem get the get-go, that's why they mistrust them now. They are continuing the brainwashing. That story is the "history" Tom Cruise was referring to when he argued with Matt Lauer. He stated: "You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do." So there you have it. They dislike psychiatrists because they're insane and delusional.

Answer 8

something about our "souls" being traumatized aliens. When people have a mental illness, we take them to the doctor and take care of them or let them be taken care of( this is Latin American Atheism, lol). I know scientologists don't like pills, and dissaprove of Physhiatric treatment because it is the cult's job to fix that "traumatized alien" problem, so that they can make all the money.

Answer 9

Because they diagnose every part of being human as a disease so they can legally drug people. Especially kids. So called treatments are barbaric and deadly. Would you have shock treatment or a lobotomy?

Answer 10

The reason Scientologists are against psychiatry is because you have to have a mental illness to become one, so Psychiatrists are like the Antichrist to them.

Answer 11

it would expose the real reason behind scientology, a big tax break for hubbard