Where in the Bible is?

Question

the term 'sola scripture'? Where is the word Trinity? Where is the word Incarnation? Where in the Bible does it say the Bible is all we need for salvation, or that the Bible is all we need for theology; or that the Bible is necessary to believe in Christ.?
After all, the earliest Christians had no New Testament to which they could appeal; they learned from oral, rather than written, instruction.

Ok, a few of you got it. I believe in all those, except sola scripture, which is not supported by Scripture itself, and didn't come into existence until 1500 years later. The question was to make a point that those who consistently bash Catholics beliefs ought to go look in a mirror.

If I could choose a worst answer, it would be yours, Don S. Condescending, arrogant, and pompous.

" All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness; That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works" 2 Timothy 3:16-17.

Gee, Don, what Scripture would that be?? The OT only, since the gospels were NOT written yet. That's the whole point - and you being one of the worst Catholic bashers on here, I expected nothing more from you. Thanks for playing!

Answer 1

nicely put,calm and with charity in mind good job and well put together. i have enjoyed your answers aswell. another term you could have got them to think about is the rapture. i hope and pray that more of our seperated brothers and sisters in christ find the journey home- a journey that can be found in the bible if you read it properly- a catholic/universal journey given to us by a universal church.

Answer 2

"Sola scripture" sounds vaguely Latin for the "there is no other gospel" at the top of the Galatians letter.

The word incarnation is probably not directly present, but it does say about Jesus taking on flesh. It certainly teaches in many places .. John 1, Ephesians 1, Hebrews etc .. that Jesus existed prior to his birth in Bethlehem.

Trinity isn't directly stated, but the fact that the Holy Spirit, Jesus and God the Father are God is stated in many places. And it is says that they work very much in unison. Most notably in John's gospel, but also elsewhere.

They initially relied on the early disciples' teaching and church. Also the Old Testament. Also the Holy Spirit was very powerfully strong then in providing direct revelation. The initial disciples governed the Jerusalem church. Eventually they started to get things written down. Certainly since it was a less literate age, people were much better at memory I think. The first of Paul's letters are from about 20 years after Christ's crucifixion.

Answer 3

Skippy is way off.People like that don't read the Bible.I have been a Christian for a few years and I had to ask my wife what you were even talking about.
" All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness; That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works" 2 Timothy 3:16-17.
Inspiration in Greek means, Breath of God.
These men were full of the Holy Ghost.You being Catholic haven't heard much about the Holy Ghost except when you were baptized as an infant, but there wouldn't be no way that you could remember that.These men also knew Jesus on a very personal level.They were moved to write the New Testament as the Holy Ghost moved them to write it.They didn't depend on a chair that Peter sat in because they believed what Jesus had told them."Howbeit when the Spirit of truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth: for He shall not speak of Himself; but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall he speak; and He will show you things to come.He shall glorify me: for He shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you" John 16:13-14.
I am so thankful that they wrote them down.No the Bible can't save me, not even Jesus would force me to be saved. But through the sola scripture, or Bible He has showed me the way to salvation.

Answer 4

The earliest Christians had no New Testament, they had the direct testimony of the disciples, and the letters of Paul.

The earliest Christians were all Jews, remember. They did not learn from oral traditions, by that time the Jews had already organized the Torah. They studied it in school lol.

The word Trinity is not in the Bible, it's an assumption made from the words of Jesus who mentions Himself, God and the Holy Spirit individually. We then put them together to refer to them as the Trinity. Believe it if you will or don't believe it, the trinity is up for debate.

Oh, as to incarnation? The actual word isn't there, it wasn't even made up until later, but it's defined by these passages (look 'em up yourself, I can't do everything!!! lol) Acts 20:28; Rom. 8:32; 1 Cor. 2:8; Heb. 2:11-14; 1 Tim. 3:16; Gal. 4:4

Answer 5

So are you asking a 'real question' or are you just 'ranting' here? 'Sola scripture' means 'the only scripture' ... which means that there was only 'one document' with that 'scripture' and not several similar documents. The word 'Trinity' is not 'from the Bible, although the Bible does refer to 'God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit ... the Trinity or HOLY Trinity. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the Bible is all we need for salvation ... but the Bible does say that 'all we need is to believe in Jesus Christ' to be saved. The Bible does not say that it is 'all we need for 'theology' ... theology is the 'study of God (through the writings in the Bible and other 'theological arguments'). Nowhere does it say that the Bible is 'necessary to BELIEVE in Christ,' but we can 'use the writing in the Bible' to help people to be able to 'believe.' Of course the 'earliest Christians' had no 'New Testament' ... and they also had only the first five books of the Old Testament, and the 'teaching' was done 'orally' rather than 'written' ... but as the 'world grew' and more people became 'interested' the 'need' for a Bible as the 'Word of God' (that is it is ABOUT God, not BY God) to help people UNDERSTAND AND COME TO BELIEVE IN CHRIST. Perhaps you need to 'get over yourself' and try READING the Bible and 'learning' from it, instead of thinking that you are a 'good' or 'better Christian' because you 'don't need the Bible' to believe in Jesus Christ.

Answer 6

2 timothy 3:16-17 says

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness,

that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work

in the 16th century (those) chose to go against tradition and examine the Scriptures in an attempt to clarify such mysteries. Their motto was sola Scriptura


Jesus repeatedly cited the Scriptures as authoritative, often prefacing his points by saying: “It is written.” (Matthew 4:4, 7)

Jesus considered the Scriptures to be inspired by God and factual. In prayer to God, he said: “Your word is truth.”—John 17:17

when Jesus spoke about man’s marital situation,..... he drew, not upon Greek philosophical conjecture, but upon the Genesis account of creation. (Genesis 1:27)



really the scripture is the basis for learning and teaching

as for trinity...its never on the bible


the bible is gods word.........necessary to learn the accurate truth..........not based on what we know.........but what god says


to get the right information we must use it


psalm 119:105.........Your word is a lamp to my foot,
And a light to my roadway



early times what was spoken of orally was read from what was written:

(2 kings 23:2)....also all the men of Judah and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem with him, and also the priests and the prophets and all the people, from small to great; and he began to read in their ears all the words of the book of the covenant


even moses did the same in (exodus 24:8)

So Moses took the blood and sprinkled it upon the people and said: “Here is the blood of the covenant that Jehovah has concluded with YOU as respects all these words.”

Answer 7

I'm a christian and I think that sometimes we don't express ourselves very well. The Bible is just a tool, but one that has survived through centuries and still agrees with historical, social, economical and cultural situations throught those many years, therefore accounting for its validity.

The Bible as we know it was not there for the first christians, but they did have copies of the Jewish rolls (what we now know as Old Testament) and letters by the apostles, and those writings were what they used in those times. They also relied upon oral instruction and personal experience.

If you really want to know about the history of the Bible, you might try:
www.biblegateway.com

Answer 8

They had the old testament, though. As for the word "trinity", it may or may not appear in the bible (after all, I have no idea what the original latin manuscripts say) but does that mean the word isn't applicable? It does mention the father, son, and holy spirit as separate entities.

The bible is not all that is needed for salvation. A belief in Christ as your savior is needed. The bible is needed to know who Christ was, so that we can live our lives by his principles. It also gives us inspiration and insight so we can restore our strength to live a Godly life.

Answer 9

Hi
The following proves God and the Spirit are one...

Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.(Genesis 1:2)

This the spoken Word of God is also one with God and His spirit...

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning."
(john 1)

3Through him (The WORD of GOD) all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it. (john 1:3)

Then We Get The Word Manifest into human form...Christ

"The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." (john 1:14)
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Jesus is the 'Word' , his words are recorded in the Bible, therefore we need his word to give us life, by reading about his word in the bible... of where else can we draw such life giving input?

Oral or written is fine, as long as its Gods Word.

Obviously if we do not have access to the Word of God then we will be only judged based on our conscience., but if we DO have access to Gods word, but CHOOSE to reject it, then we are in a far worse position on the day of Judgment.

Answer 10

you are correct, there are many terms which we now use that ar not in the bible. let's look even at how we are now fishers of men - using the televion, radio, internet.... the are new visions on old concepts.

the Bible itself is the written set of guidelines and testamonies. while you are correct, we don't "need" the physical bible to survive, we do need what it held within. in the old days most people could not read so they didn't have a bible. my own grandfather was one of them. he stood his life strong and tall for our Lord, even injuring himself to loose his middle and ring fingers to save the life of another. he thrust them into the chains of a boom crain to stop it from hrling down a co-worker "into the drink". while it was not something of which he bragged - he knew God gave him the strength to do so. He never in his life read the bible. he relied on the spoken word and testaments of those pastoral advisors and family and also what he knew in his heart to be true. the stories of Jesus and the 10 commandments.
without the years in-between the written bible and actuality - without oral tradition it would be gone. fr while God would have still inspired man to write the book - there would have been such a lag inbetween those times - of living and knowing to nothing without the written bible - who knows if the Bible would have become our life lesson of today.
i'm sorry some people were cruel and not understanding of reality.
may our Lord continue to guide and bless you and yours!

YSIC

Answer 11

1 Timothy 3 :15 (KJV)

But if I tarry long that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God the pillar and ground of truth.
or in 21st century English
but in order that you may know , if I am delayed, how to act in the house of God, which is the Church of the living God, the pillar and the foundation of truth.

To keep this in context, this is Paul's explanation for his letter to Timothy. It clearly is saying that it is the Church which establishes doctrine. Interestingly, at the time Paul wrote it it was not considered scripture. So Paul is clearly saying that true Christian doctrine was established by the Church, not by the Bible, and that is why the terms you list are not in the scriptures but are 100% pure Christian doctrinal principles with the exception of Sola Scriptura which flies in the face of historical fact. Peace be with you