HoW CaN YoU?

Question

convince someone that horoscopes is nonsense confirmed by bible verses?
as horoscope believers consider it a science as any other science like weather forecast?!

Answer 1

Well, without even going into the versus in the Bible...which there are many.....

People forget to understand that the stars have moved since Astrology was introduced...probably in Babylon.

They continue to move even now...so, what they are getting involved in is a money making scheme that involves them in the Occult...er, period. Here's a bit of info..........

From:
"Do the Stars really Control Your Life?" -1989

“A LOT of people want to know the usual nonsense things—when am I going to make a million dollars or when will I meet Mr. Wonderful?” says a part-time astrologer. Indeed, most people approach astrology as a means of learning something about their future. And many astrologers are eager to oblige them by catering to their wish—for a fee, of course.

However, astrologers who consider themselves up-to-date disdain such a view. “That’s not what I’m about,” continues the part-time practitioner. “I’m about trying to help people understand their self.” In what way, then, is astrology supposed to help people understand themselves?

Everyone knows that human activities are influenced by sun, moon, and stars. The sun determines the seasons and the growing cycle. The moon is the main force behind the tides. The stars have long been used as guides in navigation. Is it conceivable that these heavenly bodies also play an influential role in other activities in our lives?

Astrology’s answer is yes. The basic tenet of astrology is that the position of the sun, the moon, and the planets among the mystical constellations at the time of our birth plays an influential role in our character and in our life. Thus, knowing a person’s time and place of birth, an astrologer can construct a chart, or horoscope, showing the positions of the stars and the planets and interpret the factors that may influence that person’s actions at a particular time. What is the basis for this claim? How sound is it?

As an experiment, the French psychologist Michel Gauquelin sent the birth date and birthplace of an executed murderer to an astrologer for analysis. Then he sent the result to 150 people who had responded to his ad offering free horoscope analysis. The result? He found that 90 percent of the people said that the analysis they received was an accurate description of their personality and 80 percent said that even their friends and families agreed.

So much for objective reasoning! The truth of the matter is that astrological readings are usually couched in such vague language—and human nature is such a complex thing—that if one is bent on looking for something that fits, one will always be able to find it, no matter what the reading is based on.

The Source

All of this brings us to the ultimate issue: Assuming that the stars do play a role in influencing our life, in what way is that influence exerted on us? Of all the forces known to science, which one or ones are involved? Because the stars and planets are so far away, one scientist observed that “with respect to the effect on [a] newborn child, the gravitational tug of the attending physician, the electromagnetic radiation of the lights in the room are greater than any of the planets.” If the stars do not influence us by gravitational, electromagnetic, or any other forces known to science, then what is the source of the influence?

This intriguing question is addressed by a professor of astronomy George Abell in the book Science and the Paranormal. After examining all the claims made by astrologers regarding the power of the stars and planets, Abell writes:

“If the planets were to exert an influence on us, it would have to be through an unknown force and one with very strange properties: it would have to emanate from some but not all celestial bodies, have to affect some but not all things on earth, and its strength could not depend on the distances, masses, or other characteristics of those planets giving rise to it. In other words, it would lack the universality, order, and harmony found for every other force and natural law ever discovered that applies in the real universe.”

Science knows of no such force. If astrology works at all, it would have to work with a force, or forces, outside of the “real universe.” But remembering that astrology has its roots in ancient Babylon, where the stars and planets were worshiped as gods, it should not be surprising that the source of its influence is not from the “real universe” but from the supernatural.

The Power Behind Astrology

The Bible shows that “the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one,” Satan the Devil, who is an invisible but powerful spirit creature capable of controlling and manipulating people and events on earth. (1 John 5:19) By maneuvering things to make certain predictions appear to come true, Satan and the demons have successfully captured the people’s fancy and turned astrology into a cult.

Significantly, though, what sort of predictions are those that have supposedly come true? Are they not mostly about death, murders, assassinations, disasters—things sinister and macabre, characteristically satanic and demonic? The simple truth is that astrology is one of “the machinations of the Devil” that he uses to control and influence people to serve his purpose.—Ephesians 6:11.

What is that purpose? “The god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ,” answers the Bible. (2 Corinthians 4:4, Revised Standard Version) To that end, astrology has served its master well. Australian astrophysicist Vince Ford observed: “Astrology has become a sort of a religion but it is quite unprovable . . . All I can say is that I’m sorry those who believe in it don’t take responsibility for their actions rather than blaming them on the poor old stars.”

In the eighth century B.C.E., the prophet Isaiah was inspired to issue a taunting challenge to the astrologers: “Let them stand up, now, and save you, the worshipers of the heavens, the lookers at the stars, those giving out knowledge at the new moons concerning the things that will come upon you.”—Isaiah 47:13.

One who believes in astrology gives in to the fatalistic view that ‘whatever will be will be’ because ‘it is written in the stars.’ This is tantamount to denying the will of God or the responsibility of humans to act according to that will.

Answer 2

You can confirm that horoscopes are BAD by bible verses. See, for instance, Isa. 47:13.
Some astrologers are non-sense, just want to get some money from people. Some others, relate to spirits of deception (the Bible talks about those spirits), and by what they do they can be influenced by them, and therefore their life would be influenced, too. They won't be aware of that, they will just think horoscopes are the real thing... with them, you won't be able to convince they what they do is "non-sense", but with the Bible and the power of the Holy Spirit they could see they have been deceived, and be delivered.

Answer 3

Isaiah 47:13, 2 Kings 17:16-17, 23:5, 2 Chronicles 33:3, Jeremiah 8:1-2, Exodus 20:3-4
These don't show that it's necessarily "nonsense", but it is unacceptable to God to even attempt to "read" the stars or "horoscopes".

Answer 4

Are you a native English speaker? Have you finished grade-school? If not, please excuse my criticism of your English. If you are, could you have the courtesy of proper formation of sentences?

You can no more convince someone that horoscopes are nonsence as you could convince someone that the Bible is nonsence. They are spiritual tools believed in by their respective adherents.

Astrology is a science, the forerunner of astronomy. There is significant correlation between personalities and the natal charts calculated for many people.

While most horroscopes are for entertainment purposes (there is no way to perform a valid calculation for all Virgos on a specific date), the science of astrology has some consequence for many people.

On the other hand, Jesus told the believers that the deeds he did would pale in comparison to those that those who believed in him would perform. He did healings and multiplied food and made wine and walked on water. He told his disciples that they would perform greater deeds than this. I don't recall many such in the Bible stories, and I certainly haven't seen any around here.

People claim healings; I've never seen an amputee with a new limb; I haven't seen spontaneous healingns from severe spinal cord injuries; I haven't seen a person dead for three days raised to life again.

So, which is true? Show me something that proves the Bible true and I might beleive.

Answer 5

Actually the Bible does not view divination as nonsense. It is seen as fact,

Lev 19:31 Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I [am] the LORD your God.
Deu 18:10 There shall not be found among you [any one] that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, [or] that useth divination, [or] an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
Deu 18:11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
Deu 18:12 For all that do these things [are] an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

Answer 6

Well, it's easy to show it's not a science. http://www.badastronomy.com However, you don't need the bible to do that - just a simple test of it will work fine. Pick 10 people and hand them a sheet of yesterday's horoscopes with no months on them, and see if they can figure out which one best works for them. They won't get it right if they didn't know ahead of time.

Answer 7

To convince one that their horoscopes is nonsense confirmed by bible verses is just like saying that Superman has no powers because Popeye eats spinach.

Answer 8

Since both horoscopes and biblical verses are fictional, the argument is academic at best.

Answer 9

It would be hypocritical for a christian to say that astrology is bogus, but invisible people living in the clouds is a legitimate belief system.

They're both bogus. Talk to an atheist and ask them to convince your friend for you. Since you don't have an argument to stand on.

Answer 10

Both horoscopes and bible verses are nonsense.