How can Evolution b true when: gas clouds dissipate outward (Boyle’s law), spiral galaxies wouldn’t hold their shape for the time that they are supposed to have existed, at the present rate of erosion, all the continents on Earth would be worn down to sea level after only 14 million years, the buildup of the calcium carbonate remains of marine creatures in the warm oceans of our world could be entirely accounted for in the few thousand years since the worldwide Flood, at its present rate, the entire Mississippi River delta would accumulate in only 5,000 years and its delta would reach as far as Africa -- which it does not --, the sediment in the ocean should be at least 30 times more than what is actually found, carbon tests on freshly harvested clams have yielded results suggesting that more than 2,000 years have passed since they died, and all short-period comets (with less than a 200-year orbit) would be gone in as little as 10,000 years? Again I ask, "How can Evolution be true?"
2007-03-19
04:01:16
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u haven't heard about ne of these figures b/c secular resources won't let no about them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2007-03-19
04:22:23 ·
update #1
“...After all, it is not the duty of science to defend the theory of evolution, and stick by it to the bitter end - no matter what illogical and unsupported conclusions it offers... If in the process of impartial scientific logic, they find that creation by outside super-intelligence is the solution to our quandary, then let’s cut the umbilical cord that’s tied us down to Darwin for such a long time. It is choking us and holding us back.” (pp. 214-215)
2007-03-19
04:23:16 ·
update #2
“...every single concept advanced by the theory of evolution (and amended thereafter) is imaginary as it is not supported by the scientifically established facts of microbiology, fossils, and mathematical probability concepts. Darwin was wrong.” (p. 209)
2007-03-19
04:24:30 ·
update #3
“One reason Darwin was such a brilliant scientist is he was a great questioner; he didn’t just accept the answers that people gave him...He kept looking at the evidence to come up with answers that he was satisfied with. How ironic it is today that people who support Darwin’s theory are using it to close off questioning...Science progresses by allowing criticism — by allowing people to hear alternate points of view.” John West, assoc. professor of political science at Seattle Pacific University. Icons of Evolutions. DVD
2007-03-19
04:25:30 ·
update #4
This is misinformation spread by Creationists groups to confuse....
If you really seek answers, we can discusss
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2007-03-19 04:03:52
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answered by Eleventy 6
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>gas clouds dissipate outward (Boyle’s law)
Big enough, cool enough gas clouds get pulled in by their own gravity, something not observed with small clouds such as those in laboratory settings.
>spiral galaxies wouldn’t hold their shape for the time that they are supposed to have existed
This is the exact problem that led to the discovery of dark matter. It is now pretty much a solid scientific fact that dark matter exists.
>at the present rate of erosion, all the continents on Earth would be worn down to sea level after only 14 million years
I'm not sure where you get that figure from.
>the buildup of the calcium carbonate remains of marine creatures in the warm oceans of our world could be entirely accounted for in the few thousand years since the worldwide Flood
...assuming such a flood existed. Sorry, but there's science, then there's pseudoscience, and then there's faith. The assumption that there was a worldwide flood in the recent past is part of the latter. Please try to stick to the former.
>at its present rate, the entire Mississippi River delta would accumulate in only 5,000 years and its delta would reach as far as Africa -- which it does not --
Again, never heard this figure before. Besides, the biblical creation time was about 6000 years ago, so you're saying it should have done that even if the Bible is true. I'm not sure how this argument is supposed to support the Bible any more than it supports evolution.
>the sediment in the ocean should be at least 30 times more than what is actually found
Never heard this figure either. There is a LOT of sediment in the oceans, even while some of it probably compresses into relatively hard rock and gets cooked in subduction zones.
>carbon tests on freshly harvested clams have yielded results suggesting that more than 2,000 years have passed since they died
Again, I've never heard of anything about this before. However, one thing I DO know is that the rates of radioactive decay are very well documented indeed, and any claim that they have changed over the centuries or that cosmic rays don't exist or anything like that is pure BS, with or without evolution or the Bible.
>all short-period comets (with less than a 200-year orbit) would be gone in as little as 10,000 years
And again, this figure is based on what? And you are sure that comets are not being drawn in through interactions with KBOs and other comets why?
2007-03-19 04:16:19
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answered by Anonymous
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First, I am a Christian.
Second, you are forgetting a few things here:
1) gas clouds are also victim to gravity. They expand outward, but are also drawn inward by mass.
2) erosion breaks down, but volcanic activity and plate tectonics (earthquakes) raise the land back up.
3) You are talking about creationsim versus big-bang, not necessarily evolution versus intelligent design...right?
Evolution is change over time of a species. This is absolutely true. I'm not saying humans came from monkeys, but evolution...as a theory...works. Things do evolve. As for the "Theory of Evolution," I'm not certain that God did not use this as His means of creating the world.
2007-03-19 04:08:56
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answered by Jay 6
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You are assuming that everything is the way it is today. Do you even understand how erosion works? As continents erode, they also get built up. So sometimes they are getting smaller and sometimes bigger. The same works with all process on earth. If you seriously think the world is not billions of years old you basically don't have an education or you are rejecting simple science.
2007-03-19 05:15:25
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answered by Take it from Toby 7
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You obviously never heard of plate tectonics, and the sediment in the ocean is the continental shelf.
But I ask what has this got to do with evolution? The Scientific theory of Evolution applies to biology.
2007-03-19 04:19:11
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answered by Anonymous
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I believe in both creationism and evolution. This world and any others out there is like a work of on going work of art and may take millions of more years to complete
2007-03-19 04:54:40
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answered by raven blackwing 6
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Firstly, neither galaxies nor erosion are anything to do with evolution.
Secondly, you have mistakenly assumed the various rates are constant since the beginning of the universe.
2007-03-19 04:06:48
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answered by Tom :: Athier than Thou 6
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they are both theories...
NEITHER CAN BE PROVEN..THAT IS WHY THE KEY WORD THEORY IS THERE...
faith is needed to believe in either...but the faith of creation for me is stronger...since I feel that idea of evolution has a discrepancy that maybe just I am missing....
IF men came from monkeys...back thousands of years ago...and IF evolution is as consistent now as it was back in those days....MONKEYS AND APES...WOULD STILL EVOLVE TO BE HUMAN BEINGS...
even over the long haul since Christ....I have YET to read about any monkeys or any apes...evolving into human beings...that is 2000 yrs roughly...you would think that evolution as a constant would either continue or repeat itself..as history tends to repeat itself...
but no...now that we have 4.6 Billion people on earth...Evolution as a theory has decided that the NEED to create humans out of monkeys is unnecessary...
and yet..creation is based upon the fact that we can still create life..either by having our own children ..planting a tree into the ground...
the creation of life is what is at question...back in the day of Adam as well as today...what is evident of evolution today?
are we saying that humans were alive at the same time as dinosaurs? not really..
we don't know if a 24 hour day in our lives is the same 24 hour day for God/Supremem Being etc....maybe his day is 1000 years...after all it was THOUSANDS of years ago..
our calendar was created by man, I am willing to bet..that God's day was defined BY HIM...not by man..so it is possible that Dinosaurs were here as has been made evident by fossils and bones etc..and that Adam and Eve were created after the extinction of said dinosaurs...
again...both are theories..neither can be proven...
but I can create a child based upon my faith proper relations with my wife...so my faith in creation stands stronger than waiting for the theory of evolution to show its worth...
the erosion of a rock in a creek is physical science..it is wear and tear of water running over it constantly...it evolves from a rough rock to a smooth rock..but it remains a rock that was CREATED from the impact between two surfaces and it broke off..
so creation of a child still shows a consistent basis for creationists...
2007-03-26 11:07:57
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answered by juanes addicion 6
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Your very smart in science. You should know how god cant possibly exist and evolution is the only logical explanation.
2007-03-19 04:04:48
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answered by flonkas 3
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You ask about evolution, then ask questions about geology, astrophysics, oceanographic studies, classical physics, and never actually ask a single question about evolution itself.
When you have a question to ask about evolution, maybe we can talk.
2007-03-19 04:04:46
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answered by Anonymous
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