One of the new leaders thinks of nothing but his own sons. Wants to have complex ceremonies (that cost the pack money) but he doesn't help with ceremonies for others. He takes over all the jobs thinking he can do them better. And he treats the volenteers as though they work for him. . Talking to the other leaders isn't helping. Many people have said things to the pushy leader. Should I take my son and go to a different pack? He loves cub scouts and he goes to school with all these boys.
2007-03-19 01:01:06 · 8 answers · asked by Tamm 3 in Pregnancy & Parenting ➔ Parenting
A couple of years ago my son was having trouble making friends. He felt very left out socialy in school. That is why he joined the scouts, to make friends. So I hate to take him out. But this leader is the top leader in the whole pack so he makes the rules. I want to make sure that my son doesn't feel left out. This guy is leaving out everybody except those boys that his son happens to acomplish something with. Soon the other boys will notice the double standard.
2007-03-19 01:33:57 · update #1
You have all given me a lot to think about. I think I'll make a commitment to keep him in this pack for the rest of the year. In the mean time I'll ask for support from the rest of the parents to bring these concerns up the chain of command from the den to the pack to the district and so on. If, by August, the situation has not improved, I'll move my son to the pack in the next town from us. Our packs have cooperated in the past (pre new guy) and we would be welcomed. I feel better now that I have a defined plan of action. Thank you all for giving me sound advice.
2007-03-20 06:47:00 · update #2
You got a good question. I'm Cub master of the Pack in my area. Go the Cub master and talk to that person if that don't get you anywhere go to the Pack council. Unfortunately we have leaders that don't need to be leaders. If you don't get anywhere in your Pack, transferring him might be the only thing you can do. You said others have talked to this leader. You and these parents need to go together and talk to the people I listed. But if you get action that helps someone needs to be prepared to take over in his spot.
2007-03-19 01:33:20 · answer #1 · answered by norielorie 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
No, I wouldn't take him out of cub scouts. He loves cub scouts, you say, and he goes to school with the other boys. Whatever the problems are with the new leader, they will work themselves out. I heard stories about another girl scout leader who had a highly individualistic style - it was her personality - and the stories stressed the style, not the things the girls were doing. Others can try to mitigate the effects of this cub scout leader's style but the important thing to remember is - it is all volunteer.And its's a ton of work, no matter how you view it. Eventually, he may get tired of doing it and then another leader can take over. In the meantime, he's making an effort to be involved, even if it is only delegating responsibility.
2007-03-19 01:36:31 · answer #2 · answered by kathyw 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
The cub scout leader doesn't have enough leadership skills, but that is what scouting is all about. Your son isn't the one doing the complaining. If he can go on to Boy Scouts, and get badges that are awards for different things you know how to do, it is a good way to develop social skills and promote group interaction. (other than a family and school) Such as the obsolete "line dance badge" for miniature country hooters...
2007-03-19 01:43:40 · answer #3 · answered by Chatty82 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
If your son is miserable, then move him to another pack. However, the other parent and yourself should write a letter, listing the issues you have had with this leader (with as many dates as possible to support the complaints) and send it to your district leader. Scouting is a national orginiszation and all packs are part of district and regional groups. Find out who the district chair is and send the letter to them, I would also send a copy to the national offices.
2007-03-19 01:20:03 · answer #4 · answered by Annie 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
If your son is happy, then leave him be. And if you can't cope with the scout leader, stay away.
You have my sympathy - been there and done that. If there is a real problem, rather than a clash of personalities, others will soon see when no one wants to volunteer to help.
My friend took her son out of our local school (we had tremendous problems with the new headteacher) and put him into another school. He can't make new friends. It would have been better if she'd left him where he was.
So if the leader wants everything done his way, well,then,let him get on with it.
2007-03-19 01:12:22 · answer #5 · answered by True Blue Brit 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
taking you son away to another pack will not stop this leader from behaving so badly. is there an overall leader you can have a word with. perhaps you can get other unhappy parents and there children together and form a meeting with this pushy person and explain to them that their behavior is not on.if this doesn't work preform industrial action and tell this person that you are all going on strike until he treats you and your children better.
2007-03-19 01:12:51 · answer #6 · answered by fushia 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Some schools have multiple packs due to size..maybe they have another group? Also, if you have a pentecostal church around you, (Assemblies of God), they should have a Royal Rangers, which is the Church's equivalent to boy scouts. They do all the same things just at a church setting. You need to do what is best for you guys. Your son goes to school with these kids, he doesn't have to do all of his extra curriculars with them as well. Maybe branching out into say the church, or another activity will help your son make more friends.
(ps. Royal Rangers do badges and all of the other activities Boy Scouts do, plus you do not have to be a member of the church for your son to go. Usually it is on a wed or thurs night)
2007-03-19 01:11:28 · answer #7 · answered by TrixyLoo 5 · 1⤊ 3⤋
Let your son complete this level.
When the next level starts, see if you can get him into another pack.
You said he's new. With all of the new things he's doing, he'll burn out, his wife will get mad, and he will calm down.
Just let it go until the next level.
2007-03-19 01:59:23 · answer #8 · answered by kabmiller@verizon.net 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋