I posted this question this morning, but I wanted to get more opinions on it.
Christians are the dominant religion in America. A vast majority of this country's politicians are Christians. Weather it is constitutional or not, Christian faith has been and is continuing to try to force its dogma on the whole country through our laws.The Christian creation story is the only one people are trying to force into schools. Homosexuals cannot marry because Christianity says it is wrong. In many states, Atheists and Agnostics cannot run for public office. We have "in God we trust," on our money.
Yet what do I see on this board every day?
"Christians, why are we so persecuted!!????"
"Why do the Atheists want to oppress us??!!!"
I say to you now, Christians, that having people question your religion or even call you names is not "oppressing" you. What some people are doing to this country in the name of your religion is oppression.
Thoughts?
2007-03-18
13:44:09
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Jesus=God, maybe because... they are? If you can't run for public office, I'd call that oppression.
2007-03-18
13:51:49 ·
update #1
Freddy F, what are you on?
2007-03-18
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Sorry to disappoint you, but there are just as many atheists having a little whine-and-cheese party here every day as there are Christians. You gripe and moan about how the big bad Christians are picking on you and not letting you run for office, but I seem to recall this little thing called "civil rights."
If you feel that your civil rights are being compromised or denied, take the matter to the ACLU. The court system isn't a solid wall of Christianity, despite what you might want to think. If you've got a beef with the way things are, use the law to change them.
I'd be the last person on this earth to deny you the right to run for office or restrict your civil liberties. And you can call my religion into question all that you'd like -- doesn't bother me in the least.
Threaten my civil liberties, however, and I will be all over you like white on rice. Neither one of us should be denied our freedom of speech and the right to believe what we wish.
2007-03-18 13:58:16
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answered by Wolfeblayde 7
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Christians are told in the Bible that they will be persecuted if they live their faith. Consequently, some think if they are not being persecuted they are not 'good' Christians. Because no one in US is having to die for their faith they must look for persecution in other ways---being laughed at, excluded from the 'in crowd', called names, etc. That is the only form of persecution most Christians know in US and their 'suffering' confirms that they are true to God. Notwithstanding that a lot of the personal criticism is justified by their attitudes and actions, it is a sign to them that they are 'right'.
I'm a Christian and have witnessed this many times.
It's ridiculous and very annoying and counterproductive to spreading the gospel. Some Christians can't take personal criticism, constructive or otherwise, and instead must 'stand up for Jesus' when no one is attacking Jesus per se.
2007-03-18 14:03:07
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answered by Prof Fruitcake 6
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I have always thought that Christians ( I am a Christian but not one of these) are beyond ridiculous in claiming to be persecuted because people don't agree with them. They don't know what real persecution is. None of us can have any REAL idea. Going on 'mission' trips and seeing suffering or death isn't living it. My advice - suck it up and freakin' get over it. I can't stand people of my own religious belief like that. Especially in America. The thing that really irks me the most is that this is supposed to be a country of freedom and equality. The same rights that apply to one should apply to all. Have a beautiful day, and thank you for asking this question. It has been my pleasure to answer it.
2007-03-18 13:51:18
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answered by The Pope 5
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Some Christians feel that if they aren't allowed to make everyone else live like a Christian whether they like it or not then their expression of religion is being oppressed.
It's nonsense but what does one expect from people who are willing to believe the nonsense in the Bible without any real evidence?
I think they LIKE to feel that way. Especially since their Bible said it was suppose to happen to Christians. It make them feel as if they are on the right track, and everyone likes conformation of that sort. It's unfortunate that they don't realize that it is their choice of perspective that is creating it and that it doesn't really have any validity in reality.
2007-03-18 14:04:32
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answered by Anonymous
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I suppose that persecution is in the eye of the beholder.
More and more, people are lobbying for taking prayer out of school. Does this seem a tad...prejudiced? Prayer has been a part of school since the institution was founded. Music also was deemed an unnecessary part of the curriculum. Buying musical instruments was too costly when war needed metal to buy more bullets.
One thing gets sacrificed for another, and although we here in the Americas have it easy, persecution still occurs..even within families, and hidden.
But on this board, those Christians who enter here should know that they "step amoung wolves" (can't bring to mind another analogy), so...yeah. The question maybe should be: coming here, do you WANT to be persecuted?
Persecution, to me, blatantly means being beaten for your beliefs. Persecution to me, blatantly means preventing someone from practicing their religion. Persecution, to me, means being ridiculed for your beliefs. (This is probably the one they most mean) Persecution, finally, to me, blatantly means being tossed out of a community for your beliefs
2007-03-18 14:21:45
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answered by Shinigami 7
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We come on this board and hear daily comments like yours and much much worse. We're called all sorts of names, and told that our "agenda" is ruining the government. Yet, if we stand for any sort of morals, we're considered forcing our viewpoint.
When I see my daughter being fed peer pressure at school to conform on dress standards ("to be hot" at 15), it's not just a simple case of lack of parental guidance. We're in a losing battle (especially if a parent is working) and it sure would be easier to get our kids to follow direction if they are not continually assaulted by freedom of expressions and "it's my right" to do whatever I want mentality.
You may not feel that you are oppressing us, but there is certainly a lot more backlash on this board against Christianity than on any other set of beliefs here.
2007-03-19 15:57:21
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answered by Searcher 7
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I don't know any Christians. I guess you're talking about church people.
I don't know whether they are persecuted, but since they are going to Heaven and the rest of us are going to Hell, it shouldn't bother them that much.
Jesus said that all who follow him should expect persecution -- but the funny thing is, the religion of the church people is nothing like the religion that Jesus had.
2007-03-18 13:52:22
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answered by Anonymous
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It does not bother me about the persecution.
However, what does bother me is the discrimination against "the choice" of others.
I will probably be flamed for this statement as well:
I know it was not Jesus' intent that we became involved in the world's matters.
It however is Jesus' intent that we spread the Good News not just in word or might, but of Power, which is what is really lacking today!
Many do not realize that we are really not in "One accord" with the Spirit of God.
For if we were, things would be seen in a different light, as it is.
Ok, thumbs down me now!
2007-03-18 14:02:38
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answered by אידיאליסטי™ 5
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Today in 2007 there are more slaves around the world than were ever pulled form the shores of Africa... over 27 million... and many of them are Christians... they are not slaves because they tried to kill or usurp... no, they are imprisoned purely because of the anti-religious sentiments that exist in the United States.. the only thing that separates our fate from the worlds is the Constitution... a piece of paper that guarantees us freedom. But persecution is not always imprisonment... it is slander, and accusations... the false idea that we have a dogma that we wish to force on anyone... and those things are very present in the U.S. today... now.
2007-03-18 13:50:57
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answered by yesterdaylair 2
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It is part of their chrisitan identity derived from the time they where persecuted. Sure that was almost two thousand years ago but they are pretty conservative. Some of them probably think that comming down out of the trees was a bad idea.
2007-03-18 13:53:54
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answered by Zarathustra 5
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