I was kidding at first but am I turning out to be right about Roush going after Reutimann/Toyota?

Question

When I posted that last question I wasn't being too serious, but what was Biffle thinking? I don't think I'm ever going to figure that one out. But now that I look at it, Daytona Busch race, 60 tries turning Reutimann, California Cup Race Biffle punts Reutimann into the wall, Mexico was alright, he missed Vegas, and now Biffle taking out Reutimann and Vickers, and Khane too not to mention himself. I'm starting to think I may have been right.

And on a side note, I thought Atlanta was supposed to be an exciting race. I was happy with the finish. But that race was a snooze fest, just absolutly boring. Bristol's going to be boring too with the COT. Nobody's going to push it. Opinions on that too if you dont mind.

I know very well what I am talking about, and my perception of it was Biffle get into Reutimann, so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that lol.

Actually I am a Toyota fan, I'm a fan of most everybody except Tony Stewart, Mark Martin, and Roush drivers. Can't stand them. Anybody else I don't have a problem with. I just saw the replay, yes Reutimann came down, but Biffle came up further. Maybe it's rose colored glasses. I've been following Reutimann since the Trucks so I dont know lol.

Answer 1

Well you make a good point.I just realized that Biffle has wrecked Reutimann several times before right here when you said it.But i dont think Biffle would intentionally wreck Reutimann because his car owner doesnt like Toyota.That just couldnt happen.As for today's wreck,i dont believe that it was Biffle's fault,i believe it was Biffle's spotter's fault.Biffle thought he was clear on the high side and he didnt know Vickers and Reutimann were both up there.
You make a good point though.I see where your coming from.

Answer 2

i was kinda thinking the same thing. I am wondering if the drivers have a battle plan during their drivers meetings with Jack saying if you can see the whites of a toyota drivers eyes take the shot! Remember Pearl Harbor boys!!! Biffle will probably get a HUGE bonus for todays wreck. LOL
Honestly I think it was a mutual mistake on Biffle and Reutimann. I think Biffle had such lose car the speed carried him into the wall but Reutimann should have seen what was going to happen and gave him some room. I guess the only way for us to know if roush is out to get the toyotas is to see if whatever car takes a toyota out gets a flag put on his car like the WWII fighter pilots did every time they shot an enemy plan down. LOL
I think Bristol will be boring the first 400laps then turn into a wreck fest. PISS ON THE Car of tomorrow!!! Gay gay gay!!!

Answer 3

I'm no Toyota fan by any stretch and I don't like Roush at all! The people who drive for him I do like and I'm opened minded to Toyota in NASCAR but only because of the fact they had to build a 358ci small block.

But anyway, besides today's race, the only way Biffle would wreck a Toyota is if Biffle wanted too. Roush hates Toyota enough and has the money and is the kind of guy that probably WOULD put 3 or 4 wrecked cars into the budget under 'F-Yoda' at the beginning of the year for at least 1 year........but only if Biffle hated them too.
But I don't think that's happening.

As far as Bristol, It'll be good 'ol short track racing but It's going to be weird. I just hope the 'wings' fly off nearly missing an official so they can put 'spoilers' back on..................

Answer 4

I don't know about Roush/ Reutimann that you are refering too. But I will start paying attention. I would'nt put it past him.
And with the COT, I'm not looking foward to it at all. I don't know that it will be boring. But at the same time, I wish NASCAR ( in it's infinite wisdom) would not have fixed what wasn't broken. I feel that when the new car is here full time that viewership will drop. Over the past few years they have made so many different changes that have made me like it less. I hated the points changing to the "Chase" system. The only reason it was done was because Ryan Newman whined because he won more races than anyone else that season, and that he should have won the cup. Well I say you may win more races than the other guys, BUT, when you weren't winning, where were you finishing.If you finish badly, you are not consistent. And the name of the game is consistency. And besides that, NASCAR's change didn't work. Just look at Kasey Kahne last year. He won the most races but did not win the cup.
Thanks for letting me rant.

Answer 5

Make sure you know what you are talking about it was Reutimann who got into Biffle and took out Vickers and Kahne was part of the aftermath. Its just racing, but it was Reutimann who got into Biffle......

The only way you may be able to blame it on Biffle is if he thought the highside was clear, but even then the replay showed that the blame fell on Reutiman. And if he intentionally moved up he would wreck himself no matter what.

Plus think about why would they risk purposely taking out a racecar and risk of having to repair a couple hundred thousand dollar car and losing precious points car if they mess up not worth the risk. Toyota is doing terrible as it is, Jack Roush could care less.


As far as Bristol, best track on the circuit IT IS NEVER BORING.

LOL, we had this debate a couple weeks ago...
Toyota Fan?

Answer 6

There is no way Jack Roush would be dumb enough to have his drivers take out Toyota drivers. This thing between Reutimann and Biffle was a racing deal. Just like the end with Jimmie running Tony up to the wall. That's all it is, deal with it. Toyota is going to have a few bumps along the way, but they will get there. What they don't need is their fans playing with conspiracy theories to explain their shortcomings!

Answer 7

Not just Reutimann but Vickers(2 Toyotas) at one hit.It appeared Biffle tried to get betweengot the cars of Reutimann and Vickers were in the high line and his spotter was not paying attention.But the same thing is it appeared the "00" car did bobble as if air was taken off of it.so flip a coin and make a call.
Let's see what happens at Bristol.
That's all I have to say about that.

Answer 8

The Toyotas have been very bad at the start unlike the Dodges years ago. They did not get many good drivers and even good drivers like Dale Jarrett can't qualify except on championship provisionals. Toyota needs more horsepower and better drivers to be competitive. Rousch doesn't have to "go after" the Toyotas. They are bad enough on their own. In California, 2 of the 4 Toyotas wrecked each other.

Answer 9

It was a judgement call I think Reutimann went down the track a little and that was what caused the wreck. Being a conspiracy theroist though, heres how it went down.

Roush: Why hasnt Toyota learned their lesson yet, I have shown them time and time again they just cant race. Why do they keep trying?
After a few minutes of silence
Roush: Hey uh Biffle come here a minute
Biffle: Yes sir boss
Roush: You know I dont like those Toyotas.
Biffle: Well uh boss you know what they say about opinions.
Roush: Yeah I know I know, but on Sunday if you get the chance to I want you to take one of them out.
Biffle: Boss wont that destroy my car as well.
Roush: I aint worried about your car, if we can keep making yota spend money fixing their cars they wont have money to develop into a great team.
Biffle: What about the money it takes to fix my car?
Roush: I aint worried about that, I am worried about yota winning a cup title or making some of my cars have to qualify on speed, so you best wreck one yota a race.
Biffle: Ok boss.

Answer 10

looked like biffle got hit from behind to me but who cares the 2 morons that caused the wreck took out kahne who did not need to get caught up in their mess