Do you think it's fair Section 8 is moving into house's designed for Military to rent?

Question

The military well the Air force anyways can't speak for the rest of the branches is going into this whole privatize housing kick. Where instead of having base housing which I guess cost the government ex amount of dollars they contract it out to a leasing company which in turn builds a housing communitty for military. They take your BAH (housing allowance) completely as rent which they end up making out in the long run because when you BAH goes up guess what so does your rent. Now they are starting to move Section 8 into the housing community is this right? I think not that kind of crowd will bring in undesirable business (ie drugs)

the utilitiy thing yes they are starting that up in June here we have been getting stubs from what we should be charged and our housing is off the installation in an un-gated community yet still consider (ON-Base) as I am military police and I patrol it from time to time depending on posting

I'm all for helping those less fortunte however the one's who milk the system just because they are lazy and don't want to work or because drug dealing is easy quick money and leach off the government for every dollar they can get those are the kinds I don't want moving into my neighborhood

Answer 1

I currently live in PPV housing.. for the next ten days then we PCS. do I think it's fair.. oh heck no. they started off offering units to DoD civilians for a flat rate that was a good thousand dollars LESS than the average BAH of every military member stationed here.. I am at NPS, and since the average student here is an O3, BAH is in the $2300 range. DoD Civilians are paying approx $1600 for the same exact floor plans. when that failed to fill up all the units, they offered small select certain units to the general population at an equally low rate. While it is not Section 8 housing, I still belive that military family housing should be MILITARY housing.

One more benefit that is being eroded away.

Answer 2

You say she's a "former ACQUAINTANCE", which, by definition, means you know OF her, but don't actually truly KNOW her. First of all, if you had ANY clue about how difficult it is to qualify for, and be awarded SSI/SSDI, you wouldn't be on your high horse. Only the truly disabled get either, and the process takes YEARS (up to 3, in fact). So, she was diagnosed with something that has disabled her for far longer than you realize; certainly when she was a teenager and living at home. Since you haven't examined her medically, how DARE you say she's not disabled? I, too, have a severe disability that is not visible, and I receive SSDI. I'm not milking welfare, believe me. Working exacerbates my condition. Yeah, so what about your degree, huh? I've got my BA and MA from CSUN. I had to GIVE UP my well-paying career when I became disabled. Your acquaintance doesn't have much of a life, and can't. Cut her some slack. I didn't have the Democrats in my corner, I'd be on the frickin' street despite the fact that I paid my taxes just like everyone else for over 30 years. The Republicans would appropriate MY money to fight an illegal war. HMMMM....... Wrap your mind around THAT! Oh, yeah, one more thing--as far as Section 8 goes, it can take years, too. Around here, the waiting list is 2 years long.

Answer 3

I won't live in a complex that has section 8 housing. I worked with a couple of people that had family that lived in the section 8 apts/houses and they were people I wouldn't want to associate with or have my kids near. I actually ask about where these communities are in relation to where we move because crime does go up and I want to be in a better neighborhood. I'm all for helping people when they need it but am also realistic about how many of these people are actually criminals and scammers. I've found that you end up in better areas when you just get the BAH and pay rent, etc to someone not associated at all with the military.

Answer 4

If that's true I have this to say:

Well considering that some have suggested using housing on bases which have been closed as low cost housing and have been told no it's not good enough, absolutely not! There is a lot of housing that's just being let go to ruin right here --- well ok not here techinically but an hour away on what used to be George AFB - and I've seen it elsewhere.

If it was good enough for our troops than it's good enough for you!

I have not seen where this is happening on post/base but if it is it's wrong --- we work hard for our housing and I was told I was ineligible for low cost housing when hubby first came in simply because he was military (and yes we met the $$ requirements).

Not to mention the fact that it becomes an OPSEC issue -- any commander that allows this is an idiot.

Personally I don't think it will happen - but if it is than it's definetly an AFAP issue (in the Army don't know what it's called in the AF) and needs to be brought to the commands attention, or to your senators.

Answer 5

The entire military housing has gone privatized, not just the Air Force. They not only are taking your BAH, but will charge for utilities as well. They give a certain amount of leeway then start charging. I haven't seen any Section 8 where I am stationed at, as all of the housing is on the installation.

Answer 6

It sounds like you have more housing available there than there are military families in need of it. The contractor either had or gained an agreement to rent to Section 8 in order to keep the units filled and bringing in money to keep the rent from going up overall.

I'm sure that between the base command and the good military families already there that you can keep things from going the way you think they might. You might even serve as a good example. BTW, not all poor people are druggies.

Answer 7

That will only works with off base housing. How does this effect the rules that have been associated with base housing. They have been pretty strict in the past when it comes to upkeep and cleanliness. Section 8 has always been a nightmare of destruction and ill care. This will be interesting.

Answer 8

there are to many alternatives to letting dirt bag dope dealers move into base housing , why should the very ones we owe our lives and freedom to be brought down to the level of these undesirables, I realize not all people who are under section 8 are druggies, prostitutes etc, but there is enough of them to bring the area down, just like this B,S, of letting these people move into a neighbor hood and subsidizing their payments etc so they can live in a neighborhood where they
are not wanted should be a damned crime it self, I worked damn hard to buy my home pay for it and keep it maintained and improved over the years, then the damned gov, started this B,S, now my house and property has depreciated so much I can't even sell it for what I bought it for 25 years ago,
even after I have added a room extended the garage re landscaped it and hundreds of dollars in shrubbery etc,

Answer 9

The one good thing about this part of the Military ie: BAH is, if there is opposition to it then, it can changed very quickly, so get up a signature pool and present it to the proper base authorities to be heard. write to your Congressmen and Senators.

Answer 10

Oh my, I am sorry, I feel your pain. I "lived" in Houston nd had to deal with alot of trashy evacuees moving into my very nice apartment complex. Of course they didnt care about how they trashed it up or partied all night since they werent paying for it.

I had to move and right now I moved out to the country where none of them are.

It sucks waking up at 3:00 in the morning to gunshots and witnessing drug deals going down.