The Jews made up the old testament to create a national identity?

Question

i know that jesus fufiled around 42 prophecies and we know that jesus is real so the old testament must be real. also the old testament said that the masia was coming around 300 times so we know that jesus is real. what else would make this state ment false

Answer 1

The old testament was written to create a national identity for God!

Answer 2

"what else would make this state ment false"

Where to begin? Well, let's start with your question:
what else - how can you ask "what else" when you haven't offered anything in what you wrote to "make this state ment (sic) false"?
Now, as to your reasoning. Whether Jesus actually fulfilled 42 prophecies (or not - I've never counted) in no way proves "the old testament is real." Whether he fulfilled them is a matter of interpretation, and since the prophecies were available to all, anyone could have used them to be seen as the Messiah - and, in fact, there were those who did just that (not to mention the fact that there are plenty of people who would disagree with your other assertion, that "we know that Jesus is real".
The Jews - or some of them, at least - believe that the Messiah is still to come; they certainly don't believe that Jesus was/is the Messiah.
Perhaps your basic mistake is in trying to "prove" by "reasoning" that faith is right or wrong. Faith, by its very nature is NOT reasonable. It is belief - and belief is required since logic and reason are useless where "religion" and/or faith are concerned.

Answer 3

I think it would be a good idea to find out just when the books we read that have the name Bible or old or new testimant were actually written.

Yes many old transcripts are used to translate the word as they say into different languages. Also if you do read more than one language you will see that many things do not agree from one language to another.

It is easy to be a prophet long after the event happened.

When was the Bible you read actually written. Do you read the king James version. Now when those scribes translated to English do you think it woud have been a good idea to put something in that the king would not like. Remember those scribes earned their living translating into English and most always for the kings. would they risk being thrown out or even in proson.

I am not saying all that is in the bible is false. I just want people to understand that not everything is exactly as it appears to be.

When Jesus walked on water, in the winter and that sea they mention is not a sea at all it is fresh water and there was ice along the shore. Think about that. As I said all is not what it apears to be.

Answer 4

I think the real question boils down to when the Torah was written. Traditionalists attribute its authorship to Moses, but he couldn't have written all of it since it chronicles his death and burial.

Some scholars date its authorship at some time after the exile to Babylon and the first destruction of the temple. Keep in mind however that there was an oral tradition at work as well

We really can't know. What we can know is that over thousands of years, this once nomadic middle eastern clan maintained a separate identity from countless other tribes and nations, nearly all of which have come and gone with the passage of time.

Answer 5

The only prophecies included in the Tanach (your OT) were those that had already happened. There were many, many prophets in those days but the only ones included in our Bible are those whose predictions came to pass. Scholars can determine when certain passages were written because their predictions actually happened up to a point. After that point, none of the predictions materialized.

The messiah was never predicted to be divine. The messiah could be any one of us. He will be a great leader who will bring peace on earth and justice for all. Have we had peace on earth since the time of Jesus -- or at any time since then? No? Then what makes you think Jesus was the messiah?
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Answer 6

Hindsight is 20/20. It's easy to see how someone in the past missed a religious prophecy, but how can we say for certain that most people wouldn't have done the same thing under the circumstances; especially if the prophecy wasn't filled the way they expected. It's better for us to just accept that some people don't have the same beliefs we have.

Answer 7

The Old Testament was written from the verbal records of the Hebrews. The verbal records were the "national identity" so-to-speak of the Hebrews. They didn't make it up in the sense they sat down and wrote a story to give them identity. They already had their identity.

Answer 8

The old testomony includes the historic previous of the patriarchs, and of the country of historic Israel, and its regulations. The regulation of Israel replaced into the outcome of a covenant that God made with Abraham with regards to his descendants. portion of this covenant, or settlement, replaced into that the Savior may come from his line. the recent testomony is about the recent covenant, alongside with anybody, below Christ, the Savior. because the early Christians were frequently also Jewish descendants, the finished Bible replaced into written by ability of Jews; the recent Testatment by ability of Jewish Christians. there is not any conflict of words between the old and the recent, they basically serve 2 applications for 2 diverse communities of human beings at 2 diverse dispensations, or circumstances. (The old testomony easily describes 2 dispensations, the regulation of Israel, which is called the regulation of Moses, and the Patriarchal age which precedes it.)

Answer 9

Jesus is as real as Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny. Don't read the Bible it is really quite evil.

Answer 10

This question does not even dignify a response.