Is everything predetermined?

Question

Some interesting links relating to thoughts previously had on this.

Individual Will viz Divine Will !!!

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-xXSjjhg7er9d7VyaCsYH4qyJveacMoF0?p=49&n=28500

Physics coming to Philosophy or what ?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AmXejaViIFfgTWvcgjuSPAEjzKIX?qid=20060920210322AAx2zUn

Is everything Predetermined?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AvYxaTR0xBrGEbKdHnGTJyTsy6IX?qid=20070317221415AAl9Uxe

Marriage and Me

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-TwVDjJYwb64uMPZ6szAbBFh4ltcu?p=6&n=28500

Sathya Sai Baba on Advaita or Non - Dualism

http://www.ramalacentre.com/sai_baba_print01b.htm

These thoughts actually prompted this Q.

luv and SAI RAM

Answer 1

What a question. Well, first, when asking a question such as this, you must ask yourself, are you looking for an answer or the solution(s)? If you are a person of logic (you referring to one who is thinking at this moment), to my knowledge you are more likely to follow scientific and mathematical reasoning on things, such as A=A, 2=2, A-B=C, so 2XC=2A-2B as long as A, B, and C exist, and so on and so forth into the logical speaking of everything in which we try to understand. To know if anything is going to happen is to know of the factors in the equation and how they are to play out in the scenario’s exact order to produce the predicted result.

Given that we may not ever reach a point at which we will know every single factor that is placed throughout existence and how each factor is to play out (and given the level of complication this would presume you to need in order to acquire the predicted result) does not mean that those results were not already set forth into action and cannot be figured out if we had the given scenario and specific situational knowledge.

So, when one looks at this question, one must ask the air around which they breath- what is predetermined?-
If you are asking whether or not ALL THE FACTORS ADD UP TO PRODUCE A RESULT, then yes, I would have to say A must equal A, given that A exists.

Something that may get people trapped on questions similar to this one is whether one will have the ability to predict the result- that is not part of the question though, it doesn't matter- and the truth is the question does not matter either. The other thing that gets people rapped up in and about this question is whether or not they have any control over their own life- whether or not they truly have free-will.

Well, there's another question. If everything is just a complicated domino effect of a previous situation (which then translates into the question of time beginnings, endings, and the birth of existence and the infinity and so forth and so on), then why do we try if everything is determined so?

In the grand scheme of things this is just an obscurity of logic brought on by the distraction of the replacement of who is the observer in the situation. If you are just a PART of the system, with limited knowledge of the rest of existence, then you are a factor- a piece of the system-, and cannot determine any outcome on your own, you are part of the factoring. So yes, you still have control over your future, what you do affects the rest of the universe from your standpoint, but from the ultimate observer you are a system on your own, and factors were put into you to produce a result, so from the ultimate observer's standpoint, you had no real power. But you can never be the ultimate observer, you are who you are. And for that reason you have control over the future from your observational standpoint, yet everything is predetermined by the ongoing unveiling of the events that happen throughout existence.

If you are unhappy with the answers you receive, find your own solution. A good solution must be adapted to any new knowledge and factors you obtain or acquire.

This is, however, my short answer to this question. I hope the communication was carried out and you understand what I tried to say, although I left a lot of gaps in my logic. However I do find that one understands something at the greatest level when they come up with it on their own, I mean, A must equal A, does it not?
[A= one with no confusion in a situation, A=BxC, B= one capable of understanding a situation, C= the cause for understanding a situation, C == because one followed their own logic to come to the conclusion of what the situation is; One with no confusion of a situation= (one capable of understanding)x(because one followed their own logic to come to the conclusion of what the situation is), A=A, of course in this situation you don't have to deal with (communication of one who understands)x(capability to understand the communication of the one trying to understand from the one who understands), which would =C], at least, to the best of my knowledge, at the moment.

I also think that if you are capable of asking the question, then you are capable of answering the question, which is why I said you must ask yourself whether or not you were looking for an answer or a solution; if you are looking for a solution you may or may not find one that fits your knowledge, however, given the openness of the question and the way it was asked I’d say you have at least some thoughts on the subject and you are looking for some new or different ideas to spark some thought of your own- to see what others think, and thank you for taking the time to ask the question, and I thank all those who took the time or who are taking the time to read and answer any question such as this, no matter what their response is as long as it is open and logically concluded on their own.

Whenever you ask a question about anything, think vertically, does the solution or answer matter, or can you find a solution that covers more than just that of which you ponder?

I do not claim to know anything as truth- just to live out life by what presents itself to be true, at the moment of my thought

Answer 2

There's not one scintella of evidence of a pre-ordained plan. What makes a person stand out anyway?

Greatness may last a thousand years for a few and eternally for none. On the scale of earthly time, individual lives are but mere blinks of an eye. We're born, we live, we die and then you're not heard from ever again. There might be a tombstone or family tree made with your name on it, but eventually the tombstone weathers from age and who knows what media your family tree will be used. All the memories and accomplishments will be totally forgotten, unless you're a Hitler or Alexander the Great type person.

In a thousand years, your bones will be dust and no other trace of your existence will be seen, unless, of course you become fossilized for some reason, but even then, after thousands of years more, that will be disintegrated into dust. We influence the lives of our children and others, but they too will eventually die. So what's the point of living?

In astronomical terms, the Earth will eventually succumb to the supernova of our Sun, it's an astonomically certainty the earth will be burned to a crisp.

So does death render our lives meaningless. If we were immortal, that would be the ultimate in boredom, repetition, day after day, of doing the same thing for thousands of years (hundreds may be OK, but nothing beyond that)....but i digress, back to your question.

It all boils down to how creative we can be in the short period of time we have on this earth....Our activities need to be worthwhile for their own sake, not because they fulfill some supernatural transcendental purpose....LIVE LIFE TO THE FULLEST DAMNIT, YOU WON'T GET A SECOND CHANCE!!!

Answer 3

you at the instantaneous are not watching it proper. Predetermination does no longer advise that you will be wealthy or detrimental regardless of what you do, yet that you'll make judgements in accordance with both your genetics and previous environments. Oh wait, sorry, it truly is truth and under no circumstances "predetermination" and also you fairly at the instantaneous are not prepared to really understand the themes surrounding freewill, predetermination, and reason and effect. placed it this way, you imagine that you're creating a call with assistance from "no longer operating" yet that "selection" is the end results of your genetics and the studies that you've, and any results of that "selection" are the end results of limitless different factors. the actual question is are you able to are making different options from those that you've made, on the time you made them. looking again, it really is ordinary to verify that some options were poorly made, yet in case you should opt for again with out any "fore understanding",ought to you definitely opt for in yet in a distinct way.

Answer 4

Whether it is all predetermined or not we would never know for sure, because even if it is, it is certainly never going to be disclosed to us ahead of the right time as also predetermined.

What is more important is that it really does not matter... what matters is our attitude to events that do take place.... as long as we can maintain a positive and active frame of mind towards the uncertain future, we shall be reasonably happy irrespective of whether the events to come are predetermined or not... if we can not remain positive and do become passive, we can not be happy either way.

Answer 5

No. Everything is a collective, and, what you determine you are going to do with it is what you predetermine.

Say you decide to build a house, out of the elements available to your knowledge base intellect. You gather an idea, drawn sketches; using rulers, pencils, graphic architecture tools.

Or you can get someone else to listen to your determined views until you both understand the other and have them build it.

Either way; it becomes determined by your predetermined understanding of what is; and what still has not been added to the list of matter which then you can name for being its discoverer.

Answer 6

If everything were predetermined, there would have been no sense in asking this question because I would have been predetermined to answer it anyways. But without your question I certainly would have not have given an answer if for no reason other than that there would not have been the "answer this question" button on my screen.
For everything that happens somebody had to make a choice. I made the choice to answer after you made the choice to ask the question after yahoo made the choice to start the answers forum.
If everything were predetermined there would be no reason to go to work Monday because you'd just keep getting that paycheck anyways. There'd be no reason to purchase that lottery ticket because you'd win, or more likely lose regardless. And there would be no reason for me to answer this question because you'd know my answer without me giving it.
It seams so much easier to blame destiny or even god for not being satisfied but difficult as it may be I'll make the choice to blame myself and in return for this self-blame I'll earn the right to self-pride for my accomplishments.
Now I'm faced with yet another decision to make... weather or not to click the "submit my answer" button.

Answer 7

Yes. totally every line on your hand means something,I Know this for a fact,i want go into though
In Job in the bible it say s that God placed a seal on the hand of man so that all men shall know his work
But anythings possible to change i think thru the spirit of Gods guidance

Answer 8

Every thing is a result of the present.
Except for a small uncertainty due to the quantum effect it will follow a certain course.

Answer 9

i personally feel that..
what we are living in is just a mirage.
everything is already planned what we are doing is just acting it out for some "UNKNOWN" audience whos enjoying our HUMANITARIAN drama.
i also feel that at some other point there exists a universe who is parallel to our universe. i mean there is one YOU and there is one ME in that universe too. and events are talking place in that universe in a faster time or in a different Phase. they are the people who decide destiny for us. all we are doing is just following the in time.
also you must have noticed about SEEING THE FATE. i feel it is nothing but a time in which the onlooker from our phase matches the frequency or is temporarily moving at their PHASE[here i dont mean physically lolz} and we get to see fate.
so everything is predetermined for us.

Answer 10

I don't really think anyone can answer that. And I doubt we'll ever know for sure. I think you have to figure out for yourself if you believe it or not.

Edit: Then again, I guess you can find out some stuff by looking at the stars, according to some people. So I guess some things might be. But I dunno...