Gays, answer this frank question, frankly. No beating around the bush please.?

Question

Most people fear homosexuality for an undisclosed reason. I am taking that reason out of the closet now. It's called a slippery slope argument. This is not a sick hypothetical, it's not meant to hurt anyone. It is the TRUTH. People who fear homosexuality ask themselves, if we can go against nature in this manner,then were do we draw the line? Who decides were to draw the line? What in this world makes intercourse between mom and daughter improper? Between a child and a man?


Please no "you're ignorant" answers, no insults.

Gays must also understand the "other" side.

Thank you.

Answer 1

I realize this may come as a shock to you but if the slippery slope 'argument' fallacy applies to homosexuals then it would have to apply to heterosexuals. I mean if we allow heterosexual sex where does it end? Sex with sheep, daddy and daughter....If that doesn't clear it up for you and make it clear why that line of thinking is ridiculous then you're more hopeless that I thought. I also find it interesting that it's not the homosexuals constantly talking about incest, bestiality, etc but the "other side." Makes me wonder what's on their minds.

Answer 2

The slippery slope argument you are speaking of would work if the situations were actually the same. Molesting a kid is completely different than having an adult relationship. It's this very important thing we call informed consent. I man can tell a little kid he wants to do this or that, and that child will not know what the heck he is talking about.

Honestly, incest is a social taboo. There are cultures throughout the world that don't share the same taboo. Here I believe it stems from the fear of genetically altered offspring (that and it's general ick factor). A person up above me mentioned that marriages occur outside the tribe to strengthen it, which is true, and something that has been done throughout history. Marriage unites families. I myself think incest is kind of disturbing, but if all people involved are adults and capable of making their own decisions who am I to stop them? Seems to me the government feels the same way, they'd rather have cousings boffing each other than two men in love or two women in love. Once again, I'd like to say I don't think incest is cool or good or anything like that, and I don't approve of it, and it makes me feel queasy, but what can you do? You'd probably be surprised how many couples in the U.S. are some form of cousins.

I'm sorry you think it's "against nature" for me to be with the person I love. Yeah, it's true I can't create a child in the good old fashion way with another woman, but that certainly doesn't make the feelings I would have for her any less valid. It amazes me that a country would try to outlaw a perfectly legitimate form of love. You would think that all of the rapes and murders and assaults that happen every single day here would be of more importance, but nope, homosexuality is what we worry about. It's disgusting. Stop comparing us (homosexuals) to child molesters, it is starting to piss me off.

Answer 3

I understand the "other" side perfectly well, also. It seems the issue is with the "other" side refusing to understand ours. There is no slope, there is only reality. The real idea behind this argument is to somehow coax homosexuals to admit that we condone that type of behavior and then use that as an excuse to further discredit us. The fact remains, there is historical precedence for incest, bestiality, and pedophilia to cause psychological harm on another human being or creature, whereas with homosexuality, the only damage done is in coming to terms with it.

Furthermore, the incest argument is that homosexuality, like incest, has an overall weakening effect on the population. This is not true. A child born to a gay man or a lesbian can be a healthy, functional human being, provided the parents weren't related. And if they were, it is the incest that causes the deformities, not the sexuality of the parents. The fact that two gay men cannot have a child together is irrelevant, because many couples choose not to have children, something that has been more than compensated for by teenagers and Mormons, etc. I really never thought there was a threat of the species dying out, either. In fact, I thought we were faced with the opposite problem at the moment: overpopulation.

And as for going against nature: A gay man's nature is to be attracted to men. Wouldn't it be going against nature to repress that?

Answer 4

Society decides where to draw the line and here in the US that line should be drawn without a thought to a religious doctrine. We as a society that prides itself on inclusiveness must stand against oppression of the rights of the minorities either religious, ethnic or sexual. What makes the relationships wrong in your last question is that in both examples you have used a minor, an individual too young to make well informed decisions.
When you hear people making the argument using your "slippery slope" statement, try to remember that they themselves are most likely half way down either theirs or someone else's slope. Consider yourself and your own actions. Have you had sexual relations with anyone who you were not married to at the time? Has it ever been recreational in nature and not solely for procreation? If you would answer yes to either of those questions you are already on the slope and don't posses the moral high ground.

Answer 5

In the New Testament, Jesus never mentions homosexuality. He condemns violence, money changers, lying, judging others, but not homosexuality. If it were really that big an issue, I'm thinking Jesus would have said something.

Intercourse is NOT solely defined as "the act of sexual procreation between a man and a woman," so please get a new dictionary.

Throughout recorded history, roughly 10% of the world's population has been gay. If they had some secret agenda, or if being gay was a choice instead of the biological anomaly that it is, then that 10% would have fluctuated greatly over the centuries but it hasn't.

The mom/daughter-child/man argument strikes me as wilfully ignorant on your part. Think about it, I mean really, THINK. Sex with children is wrong because a child doesn't understand all the ramifications of sex and love. But two grown men or women having sex is an act between two consenting adults aka, none of anyone else's business.

The USA was FOUNDED in part, on the belief that the government has no right infringing on the privacy of your home. You don't have to like gay people, but in America you have no business telling others how to live. That's why people come here, so they can live in peace. Now all you homophobic bible-thumpers want to start telling everyone else how to live and when we object you claim that Christianity is under attack!!! Hypocrites!

As for your irrational fear of homosexuality all I can say is what a great US President once said:

"We have nothing to fear but fear itself."

Answer 6

Well, that was an interesting question you posed. Thank you for taking the time to see us today. We do welcome all people regardless of race, gender, age, or sexual preference.

In regards to your question, I poses a few more for your (and anyone who reads this) consideration. Did you realize that when humankind began using gasoline, that a very large chunk of the population and countless scientists claimed that our use of gasoline, a flammable and explosive compound, wound create ticking time bombs that rode along the ground on four wheels? People were afraid of gas, so they made unfounded claims that gas stations would destroy entire towns with a fiery explosion and that there would never be any way to control such an "unstable resource"?

Well look at us now, we human love gas so much that we've almost used all of it up. And how many times has anyone here ever seen a car explode (movies do not count) into a flaming hell storm?

Also, think about this please, in what way is humankind anything but anti-natural? We destroy mother Earth, we rip out her metals to build building so tall that sometimes, we can't even see the top. We have actually left our own home and ventured into the unknown near-vacuum of outer space. And last but not least, how in the world are breast implants natural? For that matter, how are any of the medicines we take, houses we live in, and things that we take for granted (like television) anything but unnatural? They aren't

Humankind is the definition of unnaturalness, and we seem to have strayed away from jumping over the ledge into extinction so far.

So I ask you, my curious little friend, how is this one little act, between two people in the privacy of their homes, going to bring society as we know it crashing down around our ankles? ^-^ The answer? It isn't.

Thank you for your time, and feel free to come back and chat with us anytime you feel like it. Good bye!

Answer 7

Homosexuality is not against nature, it is very natural and has been observed in more than 400 different species. There has always been homosexuality in humans and it doesn't seem to have reduced the population.

Incest taboos are nothing to do with religion or genetics. Just about every society has incest taboos. These are for political reasons, they force people to marry outside the immediate family thus strengthening and forging ties with other families. Religions took over marriages in some societies but not all.

Answer 8

Homosexuality does not go against nature - this is the first thing to get clear. People who engage in homosexuality aren't trying to procreate by this method, they are just having sex...see the difference? If a guy was trying to get another guy pregnant through anal intercourse, now that would be against (current) nature.

Two lesbians are together, one is artificially inseminated. Even though they are together in a same-sex relationship, and they are female, the pregnancy wasn't done by natural conception, so is this unnatural?

Wait: let's not even put same-sex into the picture...let's just look at heterosexual couples who cannot procreate and the woman is artificially inseminate? What? Artificially? Right there, it's telling you this is not natural...

Let's stop putting so much into same-sex, homosexuality, whatever when talking about what's natural...it's natural to want to have sex!!!

Answer 9

How can you say homosexuality goes against nature??
There are many,many species of animals that have same-sex couplings. it is well documented that only humans and dolphins have sex for pleasure, so with that in mind what in the hell are all these other animals doing?? Why are they doing it, because it IS natural for them.

I am guessing you are a man. and as a man you are attracted to women correct?

When you look at another man you dont feel anything correct?

Why is that natural?

Why did YOU draw that line?

Why would a person that is attracted to their own sex be
attracted to a child?

Those two things are worlds apart.

Why would a person that is attracted to their own sex be attracted to a animal?

Why would a person that is attracted to their own sex be attracted to there parents?

NOW ANSWER THIS!!!!!!!

Why is a hetrosexual not attracted to a child?

why is a hetrosexual not attracted to animals?

why is hetrosexual not attracted to there parents?

Ask yourself those questions, what answers did you come up with?

The answers you come up with are the EXACT ones I as a lesbian come up with!

Unfortunetly for you, you are a very closed minded person.
Why was I BORN like this?
Who knows, and frankly who cares.........oviously the "other" side.

I AM A NATURAL HUMAN BEING hence, I DO NOT GO AGAINST NATURE!!!!

Answer 10

The vice president's are assume to reflect the regulations and positions of the Presidential applicants. both Obama and McCain have reported they in my view have self assurance a wedding ceremony should be between one guy and one lady. yet both actually have self assurance that's a states correct issue and could be regulated by ability of the finest courtroom. oftentimes Conservatives (which isn't McCain) do not oppose or have a difficulty with gays or marriages. the fantastic issue, is legalized gay marriage, may carry about others including beast-human, infant grownup, one guy-2+lady, marriages.