Isnt equal pay for equal work kind of communistic ?

Question

If I can negotitate a higher pay for the same work everybody else does even if everybody is a woman, whats wrong with that ? We live in a world of free enterprise so what is wrong with me gettin higher pay for the same work than person X ? Everybody is responsibel for its own income and career and live. I dont like the communisitc color of feminism.

Comunism mean you stfu and take what they give you. I dont see what buisness an outside force has to interefer with the wages that are beeing payed. Nobody forces women to sign contracts with wages they dont like. If they have something somebody want they will get what they can negotiate based on their bargaining position.

The rules are we live in a fee country. Negotiating means one side makes an offer the other one accepts or declines. What else do you want ?

Wrong again to McDonalds the same principel applies. It is a low skill job where they offer a standard contract which you sign or do not sign. If not enough people sign they eventually up the offer unless they find some other resource.
The only way I would see discrimination is if Unions negotiate one contract for men and a different for women.

Answer 1

"Equal pay for equal RESULTS" would make more sense in that it might be able to adhere to our market economy.

"Equal pay for equal WORK" does not account for quality or results.

Just think Soviet Union. Equal pay for a job description, regardless of quality, efficiency, or skill.

All engineers of job type are paid the same, regardless of skill, quality, or proficiency.

No reward for excelling, innnovating, improving, or excellent results.

Think Soviet-quality goods. No competition, no innovation, no motivation to improve because the monetary reward is the same, no matter what.

Fixed prices and salaries for goods and services, regardless of the quality.

So, everything is crap, BUT it doesn't matter because we at least get "equal pay for equal work."

Answer 2

I can certainly see where you are coming from. One thing to consider, though, is that society today has very much been shaped by men. A salary negotiation situation - in my opinion - plays very much to the strengths of men, because the system has been created by men. Women haven't been on the job market for that long. I'm not saying that I disagree with you, I'm just saying that the cards may be stacked against women.

Another example: at universities in my home country, women are starting to be in the majority in practically every discipline of higher education. There is talk, now, of changing the structure of the courses to appeal more to men - simply because women are doing better than them (presumably, studying is more appealing to women). Catering equally to men and women seems fair to me - wouldn't it be fair also to change the rules of the work place to a more level playing field? That is not to say that everyone needs to be payed the same, but just that the terms on which salary is negotiated should not favorize one sex over the other.

Answer 3

The principle of negotiation belongs to work in which what you are doing has something of a unique value, so that there is an element of incommensurability with respect to the work of others (that is, it is difficult to find an objective gauge of comparison)| Work in the profession is like this|

Negotiation is not proper to work where the tasks are formatted and uniform (such as working at MacDonald's or on an assembly line)|

In that latter format, equal pay for equal work is *justice* - pure and simple| Any favoritism in that area would constitute an injustice|


What what *is* communistic is the principle of equal pay for work of "equal value."

This is what we now have in Canada (Google "Equal Pay for Work of Equal Value.")|


What happens there is that a vast bureaucracy with their vast equations, works out the relative merits of being say a secretary and a truck driver|

Then, if there is a finding of "inequality," by force of law, the pay of the secretary has to be raised to match that of the truck driver, and this is true, even if the secretary were being adequately paid in the first place|

It is this, and other rules like it, in the name of a "Just Society," that accounts for the degree of poverty that we have in Canada|




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Answer 4

If I understand communism -
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"
then a doctor and a janitor would receive the same wages for doing very different work. And a diabetic person would receive special food and insulin even if he was unable to work, becasue he went blind and lost a leg due to circulatory complications.

Equal pay for equal work seems more fair to me.

Answer 5

I prefer to call it "fair".