Who agrees with the seperation of church and state? Furthermore, who thinks it is being violated?

Question

AMON

There is an Establishment Clause, you need to read other books besides the Bible.

Answer 1

Yes, I agree with it very much.

Furthermore, it is being violated like a skinny, weak guy in prison.

Answer 2

I agree with it. is it being violated? Not really. For instance, public prayer is not permitted in public schools - some might feel that is a violation, the state getting in the way of religious matters. However I think that as long as private prayer is allowed, or if private groups of different religions represented in the school were allowed to use class-rooms outside of school hours, if that were practicable, it would be all right - if it were on the same basis as a "chess club".
Is it violated when a public figure refers to his religious belief? Of course not. He may be a public figure, but he is still a human being with rights. If when a man goes to work in the mines he prays for God's protection and guidance, why can't he do that when he goes to work in the White House? And why does he have to keep that a secret?
Now if he tries to oblige others to do that. he would be violating the principle of religious freedom. If he tries to get the state to further his religious agenda, then we can have a problem of separation between church and state.
Some feel there is a problem with "In God we trust". It doesn't specify which God or god. The same with "under God". You can apply that the same way Alcoholics Anonymous does: They tell their people to refer to whatever divinity they may happen to believe in, whether it is an impersonal force, or whatever. There definitely is not a particular church or denomination that is being advantaged by the state. Neither is any religious group being persecuted by the state. Some ethnic groups might be being unfairly treated because of paranoia, but that has nothing to do with the church and state issue.
I realize I am gathering wool here, but it is 11:51 pm where I am and I should be in bed. I hope I am making a bit of sense anyway.
(By the way I took for granted you are in the USA - I am Canadian, but wrote from the American standpoint).
- By the way, I just spell-checked, and only found one mistake! Not bad, eh?

Answer 3

Separation of Church and state was created by the ACLU. And yes it is being violated, BY THE STATE. When laws are passed based for or against any religion, the state has overstepped its boundaries. All federal or supreme court judges when asked to rule on the subject should immediately refuse to even hear the argument for the simple reason that any ruleing either for or against would put the courts in violation of the so-called separation. This separation of church and state thing is a clear attack on Christianity.

Answer 4

Absolutely! Because, the bible is so contradictory now that anyone can just pull any verse out of it and use it as an excuse to violate ethics and morality! Just like I mentioned to someone else in the past- say you were accused of a crime and went to court. "Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, nothing but the truth, so help me god?" Of course! Because the bible says that it's okay to do this in the old testament and I'm an Evangelistic computer hacking loser so it's okay, even if the current law is based on another portion of the bible in the New Testament!

Answer 5

Separation of church and state is in the constitution, just not those exact words. It states there is to be no state(national) religion and that this is a democracy and can not be a theocracy. In practice that hasn't been true but lately the line has been blurred way beyond anything that's gone before. Forcing religious beliefs on the masses as has been happening lately simply is unconstitutional under the first amendments freedom of religion which also means freedom from religion.

Answer 6

The Constitution of the United States reads this way:

"Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, OR PROHIBITIING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people to peaceably assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

The modern conception of Separation of church and state is a gross misrepresentation of the First Amendment quoted in full above.

Notice that the government shall not establish one religion above any other, but also that they are not to prohibit the free exercise of religion either. This means not only religious meetings, but religious expression in every facet of society.
This is immediately followed by the freedom of speech which is granted to every citizen without regard to content of that speech.

Today there are those who would try to say religious groups are to have no say in government or any other public arena. This is tantamount to saying that no matter what you have to say we feel it is of no value to our country or government.
They forget that the people who founded this country came here to escape religious persecution and to establish a free land where what everyone has to say is important whether they are right or wrong in what they believe.

Some so radically oppose religious principles that they say they are being imposed on them. Their argument is one-sided because they don't seem to realize that they are imposing their ideas others by trying to force opinions on them that run contrary to what the others believe. Is it right to have one group express themselves freely while telling those who oppose them that they have no right to disagree with them. NEVER! This is a double standard and an insult to intelligent people.

Answer 7

The Constitution of the United States does NOT agree. It says that the government cannot make anyone be of one or the other religious belief (my own paraphrase but still accurate). And yes there are many who are trying to violate the rights of Jews and Christians. It is just wrong.

Answer 8

I AGREE!!!!

I agree with President Jefferson who wrote it to the Baptist Church. He did not intend for Christianity to be separated from the State. He intended the State to stay out of Christianity. You can find out the truth at wallbuilders.com

Answer 9

You ain't seen nothing yet. Those religious folks that want religion in Government are going to be surprised at what it means when their religion has become another department of their government.
It was not good in Europe, it was not good in England, Russia, Ireland, or anywhere in Asia or the Middle East.
Nothing is as Totalitarian as a Government that claims control of your very soul.
You got to keep them separated.

Beware of what you ask for, you might actually get it.

Answer 10

Are you referring to the amendment which states "Congress shall make no law respecting establishment of religion nor prohibit the free excercise thereof."

No where in there does it say separation of church and state. It says Congress don't touch.
If you refer to a Supreme Court ruling which found a separation of church and state buried in the "spirit" of the constitution and not in the words of it, well, I don't know what to tell ya.