Basic religious question?

Question

I'm not baiting here I would like an honest answer from people more religious than me: why did God make us knowing we would suffer here, and then possibly suffer for shortcomings in the afterlife? Original sin won't explain it because he had to know that would happen too right?

No, I'm asking for a "religious" interpretation. I'm perfectly aware that I can ask God whatever I want. If I need to get in touch with him I don't bother with Yahoo answers.

A simple theater kinda guy WTF? Anyway, key pharse being original sin, that genius would signify that I was anyone belonging to one of three religions wouldn't it?

Answer 1

Well, man you asked a loong answered question, lol, but there is a answer none-the-less. But basically this is what happened, before the Earth began Satan challenged the law of God. The Law of God is the law of selfless-love, and Satan(then called Lucifer) believed that the law of love was only for Gods gain and that selfishness would be a better way of life. This idea sprang off his own personally selfishness in wanting to hold the position of God and recieving His glory. Now God could simply have destroyed Lucifer then and there, but that would make his claims look true, that God is not a God of love and has basically brain washed them and forced them to follow the law of love. So the Lord allowed the devil to live and allowed his plans to be played out so that it can be shown to all that Gods law of love is for their own good (basically). So after Satan convinced a third of the angels that his way was better than Gods he was given permission to give his proposal of a seperate goverment that goes against the Lords to everybody else (other words God has created and stuff like that). So then God goes on and created man in His own Image and gives Him the power of choice, just like all other beings had, but the only difference is that for other beings transgression of Gods law was never laid before them as an option so they never thougth of it, but because God had to show Himself as loving and not forcing man to follow Him, He allows the devil to tempt man, giving man the option of serving God or the devil, we chose the devil and so the devils plan has been played out in and on calvary the Character of God and Satan was shown to all worlds and all creatures, that God is selfless and loving, and the devil is hateful and evil. So now when we go to the New Jerusalem and dwell with God and the angels it will be known forever and ever that God is just and loving and deserving of all praise.

Answer 2

I'm not sure what you mean by "suffering here" and then in the afterlife? There is good and evil now and God gave us free will. How we "suffer' depends on the choices we make. No one gets out of this life without some pain. If I live my life for God, I won't suffer in the afterlife. I've got promised of a wonderful life in Heaven. Hope this helps you some.

Answer 3

God created man with the full capability to obey him. The fall of Adam left man in a state of inability to look to God for salvation. Our fault, not God's. Did God know this would happen? Yes, because the Bible does support that his elect were chosen from before the foundations of the world. For some reason he did not send the entire human race to hell as he should have. Out of his mercy and grace, he chose some -- not all -- to be his elect. The unregenerate are not saved, obviously, and the Old Testament shows Israel as a chosen nation where the rest of the world was left in its sins. Those who believe in his son have been given their faith.

So why do we suffer? I have to answer that with another question, what do we deserve? Should God be the one repenting to us?

Answer 4

See, the way I see it we come here of our own volition and God just facilitates it for us - God to me is the energy that powers this existence. God is not concerned with us suffering because our true nature is of a spirit existence, and that part of us can not really be harmed in this realm.

We come here to learn stuff that our spirit self wants to know - and there is much to be learned from adversity. This is one reason why I think we must have multiple lives and multiple opportunity to experience life from different perspectives.

Peace!

Answer 5

I have an honest answer. God made us to love Him and serve Him as He loves us. Sin came through Adam and Eve and a gap was created between God and man. God send His "Only begotten Son" to die in our place so we would not have to suffer in the afterlife.

The life beyond the grave is not complicated. Those who accept God's gift of love given through Jesus Christ with their heart ( not just the mind) and repent of their sin and ask for His forgiveness receive it and inherit eternal life in a place where there is nothing but peace and joy forever.

Now since God made provision for us to be forgiven and to escape the punishment for sin (which is an eternity separated
from God in a lake of fire) we should be thankful and want to serve Him. However, there have always been and will always be, as long as time exists, people who defy God and reject His gift of life through His Son.

It would be unjust for them to be admitted to Heaven so there had to be a place made for them. They would feel out of place in Heaven, where everyone loves and serves God, so because they rejected God all their lives even though He made a way for them to escape the Lake of Fire they set up their own destiny forever.

It would be equally unjust to send someone to punishment in the Lake of Fire who loved others and loved and served God their entire life as they just wouldn't fit in with that other group.
So God will be creating a new Heaven and new earth that has no evil in it for them, and the Bible says He will come and dwell with them and He will be their God and they shall be His people forever.

As far as suffering in this life is concerned - the answer to that
is that we are all sinners, and many of us care little what God has to say on the subject and create our own suffering and by our rebellion against God create suffering for others. The reason God doesn't just stop it straight up is that He gave us a "Free Will" to obey or disobey Him. Every human will reap the consequences of that choice whatever choice they make.
There are a lot of theological ways to explain all this but I tried to keep it simple so that anyone could understand it.

I hope this answers your question, but if it doesn't please feel free to email me anytime you wish and I will do my best to answer any question you may have and include scripture verses to help you.

Answer 6

Who says God knows what we will choose? He is all knowing but that doesn't mean we have no choice. God gives us free will to make a choice. He did not expect us to suffer. He expected us to live in the garden with him. Our first parents chose a different path which brought about suffering. We inherit the same inclination to chose bad things but we also can chose good things.

God's knowledge does not take away our free will. His knowledge is not like ours by proceeding step by step from things known to things unknown. He knows to what extend creatures share in his perfection. The rest is up to us I would say.

Answer 7

I study in the manuscripts; I will give you the clear answer from them:
First, lets clear up the misconception that God knows exactly what each of us will do, choose, etc...; No, He does not know.
Also please note that what you call "original sin" is from the traditions of religion, not from Gods Word. No person pays for the sin of another person. period. The sinner pays only for his own sin.
Why did God make us knowing what we would suffer here? Fair question. In 2Peter you can read of the three earth ages. There was an earth age before this one, and there will be a final age after this flesh age we live in now. Three ages, total.
In the first earth age, the manuscripts state that we were all quite happy; then satan decided that he wanted the position of Christ; so a huge war started. A third of our
people followed satan, and then there was a rather large group of folks who just plain didn't care either way - as long as it didn't affect them (whats new, huh?), and then there was a group of loyal followers of God, who stayed by Him, never faltered, never waivered; loyal. God judged this group right then and there, and named them His "Election" ; God also judged satan and he was found guilty and he was condemned to die. God could have just killed the one third of the children who followed satan, but what would it take to kill one of your own? That you love? So, instead, God destroyed that earth age that was, and brought in this one, so that each soul could come through one time, born of woman, to ultimately make up his/her mind of who they would want to follow: Christ or Satan. This is why Satan wasn't destroyed yet, because it order for each of us to make a decision, two things would have to be true:
First, free will must be real, and not interfered with by God; and,
Second, there must be comparitors. If everything is "good", then there is nothing to choose between.
We do not know of which group we belong; God knew better than to tell us, because then we would really be judging each other;
however, if you look around, you will see those who are adamantly against God, then you see those who don't care - no time for any of this religious nonsense - then you have your religious zealots who mostly like to "play church"; then there are that group of Elect who are also here, and in the end generation will be doing a specific work for God, in order to bring in the final days of this age. Yes, God realized that in the flesh, with a perishable, sickly body that grows old, and strife between peoples, etc., that it would include suffering. In fact, God sent His own Son to suffer greatly to show you that He would not ask you to do something he wasn't willing to do as well, and He even got nailed to a Cross - I would think His life was a bit harsher than most of ours, for sure.
But this flesh age is extremely important.
And keep in mind that God tells us he will not allow us to bear more than we can personally handle - He is in control.
In Luke 10: - around verse 18 or so, you will see that God even gave us spiritual power over all our enemies in dark places - all evil spirits, including satan himself.
You will not suffer for your fleshly shortcomings in the afterlife. If you sin here, repent.
When Christ returns, there will be a 1000 yr period of teaching, before the judgement even occurs, and God is very fair; He can read the heart, and knows what your life took you through; the pain, the suffering, the good times, all of it. Nobody is going to just get die and immediately find themself in a pit of eternal fire. Its not written, and it won't happen.I hope information is helpful to

Answer 8

^The man of God does not have to undergo in this earth the suffering that exists are sexual desires and people want to live the old way on life, we have not longer suffering but atrocity with the Christians but those one that suffers is by its carnality's; I do not doubt that perhaps in Chinese and the Middle East exists suffering but soon the opresor giant of the Christians will fall down in case you are suffering so that you want to continue living the old way. ^

Answer 9

We are here for His pleasure and for His purpose. Jesus came down here and lived a human life. So God knows something about the pain and suffering. He did not have to come here to know what is pain, He came here so that we know that He knows about the pain. He asks us to endure it. : )

I think life is a wonderful gift. But I understand that this is not our final destination. In heaven there is no pain and suffering anymore. That is the promise. : )

Answer 10

Firstly, we need to set a baseline of understanding on two points: omnipotence and omniscience.

An omnipotent God cannot create a morally free creature incapable of choosing evil. In other words God has to create us and angels with the potential to do evil.

An omniscient God does not see time as we do. Time is not linear for God. He sees time as we see a range of mountains in the distance--all at once. But we know when we get closer to the mountains they are actually separated by many miles. God forever exists in the eternal now.

When God spoke mankind into existence all the issues associated with said existence were known to God coincidentally. In other words God does not have an inner voice debating this action or that one as you or I do. For God, once He decides it all happens for all eternity.

So God's foreknowledge means He knew the decisions that man would make in Eden. Knowing this, before we existed, He also devised a means to reconcile another of His attributes, perfect justice and righteousness, with the fact that he was creating morally free agents who could choose to sin.

So how is a perfect God's demand for justice for sin reconciled with our own imperfections? Here we find that God came up with a perfect solution. He became flesh, lived a perfect life, and acted as our representatives in God the Father's court of justice. There He was judged and crucified, carrying all the past and future world's sins with his crucifixion. God the Son, Christ, became our sin bearer and we need only acknowledge that sacrifice to be made "justified" in God's eyes and in God's demand for justice for sin.

Think of it this way. Your son does something like breaking a neighbor's window. Yet your son is too young to be made to pay for his crime. Society demands that the parent then act in the son's role and pay for these crimes. Likewise, God the Father allows God the Son to be humankind's representative. Christ paid the price for us all; it is deposited there in the justice bank of God. We need only claim our "share" of that account's balance and present ourselves to God.