Since many Christians here think the US used in Genesis refers to the Trinity?

Question

and US is plural how are you Monotheists?

So Suzanne you do not deny by a polytheist

Answer 1

God is One ("echad" -- a compound one). Look up the uses of echad in the Bible and you'll see it's not used as an absolute singular.

The evening and the morning made up the first (echad) day in Gen. 1:5; a man and woman, when married, are one (echad) flesh at Genesis 2:24; the waters were gathered together in one (echad) place (Gen. 1:9) and so forth.

EDIT: Yes, I DO deny being a polytheist, Quantrill. I am a monotheist. God is One with three distinct personalities. God can be One, yet have three natures, just as you can be a grandson, a son and a father -- all in one person. If you were all three, wouldn't you STILL be one man we call Quantrill?

Answer 2

Traditionally, the argument has centered on the relationship between "substance" and "accident." Formulated this way, the members of the trinity share the same substance, but display different accidents. Moderns generally speaking do not share those old metaphysical presuppositions, and so cannot give warrant to such claims. The metaphysics of the 21st century now couch language of the divine in "Person" terms, so you will hear claims about one God appearing with three different personalities as an example. These modal of views of the trinity, IMHO, present as many problems as they purport to solve. I think the older language is more flexible and get at what Christians actually believe: that the divine is fully active, fully completed potential.

HTH

Charles

Answer 3

Why I can’t believe in the royal we, idea to Genesis 1:26 and 3:22,

Because the trinity is part of the great apostasy that Paul said would come, prior to Jesus return.

According to several reference works, not only is the concept of the trinity not in the bible but it is contrary to the teachings of the bible. The New Encyclopædia Britannica, The New Encyclopædia Britannica, The Encyclopedia Americana to name a few.

Therefore those who quote John 1:1, John 10:30, etc do so out of context.


Why I can’t believe in the royal we, idea to Genesis 1:26 and 3:22,

If Jehovah talked with the royal we or us, etc, why did He only do it only 4-5 times.

Why didn’t He or doesn’t He continue to do to so through out the bible.

Why didn’t He use the royal we at Gen. 1:29, 30 only 3 verses later, or Gen. 2:18, Gen. 3:11, 15
and through out the rest of the bible? Why at Isa. 6:8, does Jehovah say “Whom shall I send”?

Job 38:4-7 shows that the angels were existing at the creation of man, so Jehovah wasn’t alone and had many spirit creatures to talk to.

Instead, which sounds more real and truthful, that Jehovah was talking to someone who is His Master Worker, His Firstborn Son, His Faithful Witness, who is His image, His exact representation, OR He was talking to Himself. (Prov. 8:30; Heb. 1:3; Col 1:15)

Bible scholar Donald E. Gowan said “There is no support in the O[ld] T[estament] for most of the proposed explanations: the royal ‘we,’ the deliberative ‘we,’ the plural of fullness, or an indication of a plurality of persons in the Godhead.

Why does the word Elohim according to Strong’s Cyclopaedia, when it applies to Jehovah means Supreme God, not Gods? Even when this word is applied to Moses (Ex. 4:16 & 7:1) it doesn’t mean that there are 3 Moses, it doesn’t even mean there are 2 Moses.

(Side point when Jesus said if you see me you see the Father, it is because he is the image of God, the exact representation of his Father. When you see an image in a mirror you are seeing a representation, not the actual person. Col 1:15)

(Side point, According to my college dictionary, begotten means “to be born”, to be born means “brought into life or being” when was Jesus brought into life, when he came to life as a baby? No, as Jehovah’s Firstborn of creation Col. 1:15; Rev 3:14)

Answer 4

Perhaps the deepest, the most profound of all mysteries is the mystery of the Trinity. The Church teaches us that although there is only one God, yet, somehow, there are three Persons in God. The Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God, yet we do not speak of three Gods, but only one God. They have the same nature, substance, and being.

We came to know this immense mystery because Christ revealed it to us. Just before ascending He told them: "Go teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" (Matthew 28:19). We know that these Three are not just different ways of looking at one person. For at the Last Supper, Jesus told us: "I came forth from the Father." So He is different from the Father. But He also promised: "If I go, I will send Him [the Paraclete] to you. . . . He will guide you to all truth" (John 16:28, 7, 13). So the Holy Spirit is also different.

Even though the Three Persons are One God, yet they are distinct: for the Father has no origin, He came from no one. But the Son is begotten, He comes from the Father alone. The Holy Spirit comes or proceeds from both the Father and the Son. These different relations of origin tell us there are three distinct Persons, who have one and the same divine nature.

Even though everything the Three Persons do outside the Divine nature is done by all Three, yet it is suitable that we attribute some works specially to one or the other Person. So we speak of the Father especially as the power of creation, of the Son as the wisdom of the Father, of the Holy Spirit as goodness and sanctification.

The two doctrines of the Trinity and the Incarnation are the foundation of Christian life and worship. By becoming man, God the Son offered us a share in the inner life of the Trinity. By grace, we are brought into the perfect communion of life and love which is God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. This sharing in the life of the Trinity is meant to culminate in heaven, where we will see the three Persons face to face, united to them in unspeakable love.

Answer 5

I was told that the US is the Elohim and has nothing to do with the Trinity. The trinity is an ancient concept. The first was Man, Woman and Child. They changed it to its modern state at the conference of Nicene. They kicked Arius out because he said that the we should be worshiping God and God alone. He told them that they are creating a creative person. He said they were turning Jesus into Serapus. Turning him from the Historical to the Mythical Christ.

Answer 6

Because the Trinity isn't three different gods. It's ONE God with three manifestations. For example, water can be liquid (out of the tap), it can be ice (frozen), or it can be steam (boiled in a pot.) They're all water. Same with God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son, and the Holy Spirit. They're all God. One God.

Answer 7

Some say it is that. Others say it is "us" and "we" in the sense that monarchs used it.

People that really know understand that Moses was a henotheist and not a monotheist.

Us was referring to the pantheon of Gods. El was the creator God.... he became Yahweh later in the book.

Answer 8

Well, it's been fairly well-established that the plural in Genesis is plural in majesty - not plural in number. God was not talking to himself. He was speaking to his only-begotten son - his first creation. It was this son who was beside him (God) as a master worker.

Hannah J Paul

Answer 9

He said let US create... in OUR image.

Father/Son/Holy Spirit The great 3 in 1.
One God - Three entities. Some things we cannot understand. Our minds are to finite to understand all the workings of God.

Answer 10

Monotheism is a confusing language. There is but One God, Jehova and Christ His Son, the first born of all creation through whom God made everything. Contact your local pastor to get full details.