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What then is the point of judgement day? Isn't God supposed to be the one who decides if you are saved? And, if you are already saved, does that mean that you can now go out and commit sin, without worrying wether you are going to make it to heaven? Is this why serial killers get saved after they get to prison?

2007-03-15 13:28:27 · 28 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

What about the serial killers? They're good to go? So I can go kill some hookers and get saved and still go to heaven?

2007-03-15 13:43:19 · update #1

28 answers

Ssshhhhh ... they might start thinking for themselves...

2007-03-15 13:31:22 · answer #1 · answered by Elana 7 · 4 2

The Bible is rather clear on how one can be saved. If you have done the things it requires, you are saved. (See Romans 3:23, 5:8, 6:23, 10:9, and 10:13 as examples)

If you are saved, you will not be able to indulge in a sinful lifestyle for very long, because God will not tolerate His name being blasphemed for very long. Paul says it this way, "What should we say, then? Should we go on sinning so that grace may increase? Of course not! How can we who died as far as sin is concerned go on living in it?" (Romans 6:1)

John goes even farther by saying that the habitual sinner isn't saved. "If we claim that we have fellowship with him but keep living in the darkness, we are lying and the truth is not in us." (I John 1:6)

Serial killers who come to faith in Christ while in prison likely have the most genuine conversions, since they (of all people) know that they are sinners. They have been condemned. When God is all you have left, you either turn to Him, or reject Him. Those that turn to Him are forgiven.

The problem with most people is this: they don't realize that they are under the same condemnation that the serial killer is. They don't believe that they are "all that bad." But God has set a way for forgiveness and escape from judgment. Jesus said it this way: "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (John 14:6)

2007-03-15 20:38:39 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

the point of judgement day for Christians is to go before God on what we have done for Him here on earth........ in which there are rewards....... if we have done nothing for Him or have done things with the wrong motives.... then our rewards will be nil....... the Bible says that all that call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Seeking the Lord for salvation comes with the knowledge that we don't measure up to God standards for rightousness. It is a moral descision to turn to the Lord to want to be a better person and to be saved. When we sin, we break the heart of God and we hurt other people and ourselves. God knows that we are all sinners, each and every person born is a slave to sin..... we all mess up..... it is not possible to obey the law of God and not sin without the help of God. That is why God sent Jesus to suffer and die on the cross for us.... so that we won't go to hell. God does not want any of us to go to hell. When we accept salvation, we are free from the law and now are under the grace of God. That doesn't give us a free ticket to go out and kill people and still go to heaven. We will still mess up but it should be the desire of our hearts to try to live good lives for God so that the world may see the love of God.

2007-03-15 20:41:37 · answer #3 · answered by Coodles 5 · 1 0

If we have faith then we have assurance of eternal salvation. That will show in our lives if we are truly saved because we are saved unto good works. We aren't saved by the good works but if they're not there, and we are sinning without compunction, then the evidence of faith isn't there, just the expression of carnal as opposed to spiritual thinking. A true heartfelt repentance is only possible by the calling of the Holy Ghost. The knowledge that we've sinned and the desire to turn away from it and be cleansed of sin comes by the conviction of the Holy Ghost.

2007-03-15 20:46:52 · answer #4 · answered by hisgloryisgreat 6 · 1 0

"I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8), but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15). Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11–13)."

Judgment day will occur when Christ returns. We will not be judge for our sins if we have accepted Christ, asked forgiveness of our sins from Jesus and those we have sinned against, repented and turned from sin,our sins are forgotten if we do these things.We will be judged for our fruits(works and deeds). No we are to turn from sin. Getting saved while in prison, most prisoners do that, but they must also do the above steps. They will be judged accordingly.Only God can judge, only God knows what is in ones heart.

2007-03-15 20:43:13 · answer #5 · answered by tebone0315 7 · 1 1

I can claim that I am saved, but in truth I will not know until the day I die/judgement day, which ever comes first.

I can, however, learn from Jesus's teachings, live the lifestyle that Jesus led and that he taught us to live. If I do as Jesus did, or atleast try to live the way He lived and if I accept Jesus as my saviour I can assume that I am saved.

No, people that claim to be saved, people that follow christ, can not continually commit sin and expect to waltz through the gates of Heaven. Besides, those who are truly following Him and are close to Him will not have the urge to commit sins.

2007-03-15 20:41:56 · answer #6 · answered by acidrecruit 1 · 0 1

The point of getting saved is so that you will go to judgment day as SAVED. Once judgment day is here, it is to late.

Absolutely not to your question of because you are saved you can sin worry free. Jesus tells us that we can also fall from grace. Hence, if we sin on purpose and because we make the choice to continually do so, we are not sorry. Christians who are saved will of course sin, as we are still human, but that doesn't mean we have nothing to worry about. One must be truly sorry from the heart when asking for forgiveness, otherwise, it is done in vain, and God knows your true heart. You can not fool him. So, if you are not really sorry, then you are not forgiven, for you have not truly asked and repented.

2007-03-15 20:35:07 · answer #7 · answered by Gardener for God(dmd) 7 · 2 1

GREAT question. Those who say the little prayer think that it will gurantee them salvation, no matter what they do. I, for one, believe what the Bible says.

Certainly, Christ did die on the cross once for all and has entered into the holy place in heaven to appear before God on our behalf. Christ has abundantly provided for our salvation, but that does not mean that there is no process by which this is applied to us as individuals. Obviously, there is, or we would have been saved and justified from all eternity, with no need to repent or have faith or anything else. We would have been born "saved," with no need to be born again. Since we were not, since it is necessary for those who hear the gospel to repent and embrace it, there is a time at which we come to be reconciled to God. And if so, then we, like Adam and Eve, can become unreconciled with God and, like the prodigal son, need to come back and be reconciled again with God, after having left his family.

If another person gives us something as a grace—as a gift—and even if we did nothing to deserve it (though frequently gifts are given based on our having pleased the one bestowing the gift), it in no way follows that our actions are irrelevant to whether or not we keep the gift. We can lose it in all kinds of ways. We can misplace it, destroy it, give it to someone else, take it back to the store. We may even forfeit something we were given by later displeasing the one who gave it—as when a person has been appointed to a special position but is later stripped of that position on account of mismanagement.

‘Not everyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord" shall enter the kingdom of heaven’

As the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8), but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15). Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11–13).

"See then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off"

"He who endures to the end will be saved"

there are those who "believe for a while and in time of temptation fall away"

It is in the light of these warnings and admonitions that we must understand Scripture’s positive statements concerning our ability to know and have confidence in our salvation. Assurance we may have; infallible certitude we may not.

2007-03-15 20:36:39 · answer #8 · answered by SpiritRoaming 7 · 0 1

Jesus says in john that he has to die as a seed to produce many seeds in John 12:24. When he appears to Mary Magdalene in John 20:12 he says "I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God". John 3 says that when you put faith in Him as your saviour you are born from above.
So your spirit gets recreated. Its not easy to discern because we mostly act out of our souls naturally. Once that change is done though you are 'saved' in the spirit. You proceed to get saved in your 'soul' and behaviour in this life by attending to the means such as bible and fellowship. Then after death you get a resurrected undecayable body - so you are saved in the body and from all death.
Serial killers can be 'saved' if there is genuine faith. They are saved if this is so by this supernatural act enabled by Christ's death.
Judgement day - christians face a different judgement. But not progressing in ones faith will be very unpleasant judgement for christians to bear whilst it happens - but with no ultimate loss apart from loss of reward.

2007-03-15 21:07:00 · answer #9 · answered by Cader and Glyder scrambler 7 · 0 0

We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ we are saved. (Acts 15:11)
Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. (Romans 10:13)
Being saved doesn't give you a license to sin.
Being saved stops you from committing sin.
You no longer have a sinful nature once you are born again.
I'm not saying you become perfect, but you become different. Jesus creates in you a new heart.
As for serial killers getting saved in prison, if they are truly sorry for what they did and believe Jesus is our Savior, Jesus will save them too.
You have to remember, Jesus knows our heart, if you are not sincerely sorry and if you truly don't believe, Jesus knows.
Jesus knew the heart of the criminal on the cross beside Him.
Jesus told him, "Today you will be with Me in paradise." (Luke 23:43)
Jesus also said "God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him." (John 3: 17)
Whoever believes in Him is not condemed, but whoever does not believe stands condemed already because he has not believed in the name of God's One and Only Son. (John 3:18)

The first step is to admit you need a Savior.
We can't save ourselves, the church can't save us, pastors, priests, the pope can't save us.
Only Jesus, He is the Savior of the world.

Its so simple, yet some people just can't grasp it,
Believe, Jesus

2007-03-15 22:00:13 · answer #10 · answered by Spoken4 5 · 0 1

No one can say how God is going to judge anybody. We can only hope that they lives we live according to our beliefs and/or our conscience the things we do will be enough.

Although God is kind and merciful and loves us, so there really isn't anyone with very few acceptions that I don;t see God taking in.

2007-03-15 20:34:10 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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